Comment by FirmwareBurner

Comment by FirmwareBurner 6 days ago

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>HP was definitely in a position to compete with apple, and always has been.

In 1990-2000? Sure, maybe. In 2010? Not a chance. HP was not a SW company like Apple. Apple wasn't making much money from selling Macs in 2001. Their big cash cow came from the iPod which HP couldn't pull off something like iTunes and licensing deals with record labels, they were just a commodity HW company (ignoring the oscilloscope, sensors, medical and the other shit).

>They might not have been in a position to beat them, but you don't have to be on top to be profitable.

From where I am, I saw clear as day that markets usually have room for only two large players who will end up owning 90% of the market, with the rest of the players fighting for the scraps. Intel & AMD, Nvidia & AMD, iOS & Android, PlayStation & Xbox, Apple & Samsung, Windows & Mac, etc,

HP was in no position to win against Apple and Google for a podium spot so they left in due time. Even Microsoft couldn't pull it off.

bee_rider 6 days ago

I agree.

OEMs have always been weird because in some sense consumers attribute the computers to them. But they don’t have a core competency in software. And they don’t have a core competency in the hardest parts of hardware—chip design, etc.

Picking the right parts to buy, assembling them, shipping them, that’s all important stuff. They weren’t in a position to win against Apple; they were playing one of the three games Apple plays, almost as well as Apple.

  • bluGill 6 days ago

    HP did have competency in a lot of those areas though. They were a large company that did have fingers in a lot of different things, both software and hardware. Their PCs were visible, but they had lots of other divisions doing lots of things.

    • cogman10 6 days ago

      Which was perhaps their major issue. The HP expertise was all over the place with divisions around the globe reinventing the wheel. Couple that with a recently decimated and outsourced IT department (Such a colossally dumb decision) and you could effectively see HP not as one company but 100 companies all doing their own thing.

coredog64 6 days ago

Circa 2005, HP did a licensing deal with Apple to sell their own iPod Photo.