Comment by cluckindan

Comment by cluckindan 6 days ago

That’s insanely stereotypical. There is no ”drugs” that is ”the purest form of pleasure”.

Instead, there are many thousands of different substances which can elicit, heighten, prolong or enable pleasure; some illegal, some legal, some included in your favourite meals and snacks.

Even vanilla is a ”drug” which enhances pleasurable feelings. (Vanillin and ethylvanillin are monoamine oxidase inhibitors and consuming them will increase serotonergic and dopaminergic activity)

munificent 6 days ago

> There is no ”drugs” that is ”the purest form of pleasure”.

Having had fentanyl for a couple of surgical procedures, I am inclined to disagree. No one should feel that happy after having their colon inflated like a balloon or chunks of metal screwed into their bones.

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cluckindan 5 days ago

You are missing the point. Sure there are individual substances that can provide such experiences. However, talking about drugs as some sort of infinite pleasure inducers is intellectual dishonesty: the category is not homogeneous.

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diggan 6 days ago

> There is no ”drugs” that is ”the purest form of pleasure”

Yeah, I mean I think we barely know what that would even be. But some drugs come pretty damn close I'd wager, and I'm not talking about vanilla or ethylvanillin.

I think if you've dabbled in opiates, you've come pretty close to what the purest form of pleasure would feel like.

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cluckindan 5 days ago

Most ”normal” people react to opiates/opioids with intense nausea and discomfort.
People unable to feel the full spectrum of pleasure sober have quite a different experience, since these substances completely eradicate any pain, grief, anxiety and stress that commonly prevents pleasurable feelings for occurring.

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