Comment by Stratoscope

Comment by Stratoscope 6 months ago

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This is very nice, thank you for creating it. I have a few suggestions, but they will have to wait until later this week. I see an email address on the Imprint page on your website - is that the best way to reach you?

Somewhat related, for any harmonica player who likes to play cross harp for that bluesy sound, and wants to branch out into songs written in a major or natural minor key (e.g. much pop/rock/country), let me suggest the Melody Maker tuning. This gives you a major scale (along with the relative minor) all up and down the harp in the cross harp position.

And you can still bend notes. You just don't have to for the major/minor scale notes.

For example, a High C Melody Maker is perfect for playing Stevie Nicks' vocal in Dreams. The song is in A minor, but the A minor harps from Lee Oskar and Seydel are in a lower register. The High C matches her range.

The song begins with "Now here you go again", and Stevie has a signature vocal bend on the word "go". She starts that word nearly a semitone flat and then slides up to pitch.

On the Melody Maker, that note is on the draw 3, where it is super fun and easy to start with a light bend to mimic her vocal style.

The nice thing is that you don't have to be so precise on your pitch with this bend. You just start low and slide up, like Stevie does.

I used to make my own Melody Makers by retuning a conventional Richter harp. You raise the blow 2 by a full step to get the second note in the major scale, and raise the draw 5 and draw 9 by a half step to get the minor 7ths. So an F Richter harp becomes a High C Melody Maker and is labeled that way when you buy one.

For years, Lee Oskar only sold Melody Makers in five keys, but now they have expanded it to nine keys including the High C and the Bb that I use for the late Songbird's vocal on You Make Loving Fun.

Seydel has always sold their Melodic Maker (same as Melody Maker) in all 13 keys, but their cover design is so different from Lee Oskar and Hohner that I never could switch back and forth without off-by-one-note errors.

(Yes, 13 keys, because there is both a Low C and a High C.)

Oh - how do you retune a harmonica? File the reeds! File off some weight at the tip and it raises the pitch. Scratch off some weight at the attached end and it lowers the pitch. You just need a single edge razor blade to lift the reed out of its slot, a fine point file or other small file, and an instrument tuner like Let's Bend.

egdels 6 months ago

Thanks so much for this detailed and generous comment — it’s incredibly encouraging to hear from someone with your level of experience.

Yes, the email listed on the Imprint page is the best way to reach me — I’d love to hear your suggestions when you get a chance.

And it’s great that you brought up Melody Maker tuning! Even though I don’t currently own a harp in that tuning, I’ve implemented theoretical support for Melody Maker (as well as other Richter variants) in the app already. So users can visualize bends and pitches correctly even when playing in those alternate tunings.

Your Stevie Nicks example is such a beautiful use case. Expressive bending like that — starting just below the pitch and sliding up — is exactly the kind of thing I hope the app can help people hear and understand more consciously.

Also, I really appreciate that you mentioned manual retuning. Let’s Bend was designed to be lightweight and offline, so it’s ideal for checking pitch quickly when tuning by ear or file. That’s one of the practical scenarios I had in mind from the start.

Thanks again — I’m learning a lot from your comment.

noduerme 6 months ago

Very interesting! I've played harp casually all my life without ever really learning about alternate tunings. The Melody Maker sounds like it would open some nifty possibilities! Someone bought me a chromatic harp once as a gift and I could never figure out how to play it properly. It's funny though, because as a piano and guitar player I never thought about what I was doing. I just play a cheap blues band or marine band, and I realize now that the positions that feel most normal to me are 1st, 2nd and oddly, 12th. I remember once jamming with an old folk rocker (my former guitar teacher) and he started playing something in F major while I was on a C harp. He didn't think I'd be able to follow - at the time, I just called this "cross harp" because I thought that was the generic term for playing in any other key! I don't know why playing in a major 4th seems so unusual, but he was kinda shocked that I pulled it off. There's only one note you can't play straight in that setup...

  • Stratoscope 6 months ago

    That is so cool that you discovered those alternate positions!

    Yes, "cross harp" is also known as second position. I have never explored the other positions as you have. There is so much to experiment with.

    If you ever want to try the Melody Maker tuning, I would pick a song you want to play and get one in that key. I mentioned Dreams (A minor / High F Melody Maker) and You Make Loving Fun (Bb Melody Maker) for the female vocal parts.

    Another one I have fun with is Wagon Wheel (the Darius Rucker version). It's in A Major, and yes, Lee Oskar does have an off the shelf Melody Maker in that key.

    I do the fiddle part, which was quite a challenge to learn! And the organ part, which is much easier.

    I can read music, slowly, but mostly I learn by ear. I used a site called Karaoke Version:

    https://www.karaoke-version.com/

    This site lets you create your own mix of instruments and vocals for any song.

    First I made a mix with everything included, so I could play along with the fiddle and organ parts.

    Once I had it down, I made a second mix with fiddle and organ dropped out so I could play those parts on my own. It still included the vocals.

    Unfortunately, Karaoke Version later replaced the track with a much inferior version. I have no idea why! If anyone wants the two mixes I worked with (the one including fiddle and organ, and the one without), ping me and I can send them to you on the sly.

  • smartaz42 6 months ago

    I've found Jason Ricci to be a most useful source as well. Adam Gussow, Tom Leckie, Will Wilde, and Howard Levy all have recommended YouTube content.

    I haven't checked out the app, but certainly plan to in order to fine tune my scales (major/minor penatonic, blues, and a few more).

    By the way, once you get 2nd position major pentatonic those same notes are 5th position minor penatonic (albeit with a different starting notes). Same for 1st major and 4th minor, and 12 major and 3rd minor.

    • egdels 6 months ago

      Glad to hear you're planning to check out the app! It includes scale training for major, minor pentatonic, blues, and a few more. If you notice any scales missing that you'd like to see added, feel free to reach out — I'm always happy to improve it based on feedback.