Comment by qnleigh

Comment by qnleigh 19 hours ago

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Is there a simple way to understand why massive objects don't radiate gravitationally? Accelerating observers see a bath of thermal radiation via something called the Unruh effect. If you're standing on a planet, you're accelerating under gravity, and therefore don't you see Unruh radiation? Does this have any connection to Hawking radiation?

dataflow 19 hours ago

> If you're standing on a planet, you're accelerating under gravity, and therefore don't you see Unruh radiation?

Layman here, but if you're standing, you're not actually accelerating, right? You'd only be accelerating if there was nothing under you holding you up, meaning if you were falling down.

  • qnleigh 19 hours ago

    Ah yeah there are multiple definitions of 'acceleration' here. Unruh radiation occurs when you're not 'in an inertial reference frame,' loosely meaning that you feel acceleration. So in a rocket in space or (presumably) standing on Earth's surface.

    What you say makes intuitive sense, but it was actually the opposite logic that lead Einstein to his general theory of relativity. Here's a slightly dorky but very good Veritasium video that explains this issue and general relativity https://youtu.be/XRr1kaXKBsU?si=1iudoAx5kWgWHHt-

    • dataflow 18 hours ago

      Ah gotcha! Yeah I'm familiar with Einstein's happiest thought - it just escaped me what was meant by acceleration here for the Unruh effect. Cool!

  • nazgul17 19 hours ago

    Also a layman. But as long as your temperature is not absolute zero, particles inside you are moving, and if they have mass, they would indeed radiate gravitationally - until they slow down to a stop, that being absolute zero.

    My understanding from pop science videos is that they can indeed evaporate, but only through decay mediated by the weak force.

  • varjag 11 hours ago

    No, you are in fact accelerating when you are standing on the planet.