anta40 6 hours ago

I have some CDs from a computer magazine (in the 2000s) which provided you code archives even back to 90s (including good old QB stuffs).

FBC easily compile lots of them. Well, too bad still no macOS support.

  • zozbot234 5 hours ago

    Did you check whether these are available on Internet Archive already?

    • anta40 2 hours ago

      The magazine I meant is Mikrodata. It's an Indonesian IT magazine, which was was closed few years ago. Until 2000-ish, the magazines came with CDs which has code archives from practically all Mikrodata contributors.

      I started learning programming in 2002 with VB, so it felt kinda amusing looking at 90s DOS stuffs (Turbo Pascal 7, QB, TASM) etc

      • zozbot234 35 minutes ago

        Looks like the Internet Archive has no content from this magazine as of yet! It may be that they have it archived privately and it's just hidden from public view, but you may want to write to Jason Scott https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jason_Scott (who works on the Software section at the Internet Archive) about getting this stuff backed up and archived properly for the foreseeable future. As an official archive and library, the Internet Archive is one entity that can keep copies of rare and fragile content safely backed up (and CD coverdiscs from old Indonesian magazines definitely qualify) without being restricted by copyright laws as most other people and organizations might be.

orionblastar 19 hours ago

This one emulates GW-BASIC as PC-BASIC so old BASIC programs for the IBM PC DOS systems can run on modern systems: https://robhagemans.github.io/pcbasic/

FreeBASIC is like Microsoft's QuickBASIC.

More BASIC Languages: https://www.thefreecountry.com/compilers/basic.shtml

  • vunderba 18 hours ago

    It really isn't - from the docs themselves:

      FreeBASIC gives you the FreeBASIC compiler program (fbc or fbc.exe),
      plus the tools and libraries used by it. fbc is a command line program
      that takes FreeBASIC source code files (*.bas) and compiles them into
      executables.  In the combined standalone packages for windows, the main
      executable is named fbc32.exe (for 32-bit) and fbc64.exe (for 64-bit)
    
    
    The magic of QuickBasic was that it was an editor, interpreter, and help system all rolled up into a single EXE file. Punch F5 and watch your BAS file execute line-by-line.
    • pjmlp 8 hours ago

      A magic also available in Turbo BASIC.

      Ironically Borland gave up competing against Microsoft on BASIC tooling, while Microsoft gave up competing against Borland on Pascal tooling (Quick Pascal).

      Both products where short lived, Microsoft killed Quick Pascal quite quickly, while Borland sold Turbo BASIC, which became Power BASIC.

      • orionblastar 8 hours ago

        PowerBASIC is dead; the website no longer works. The old PowerBASIC for DOS abandonware can be found here: https://winworldpc.com/product/powerbasic/3x

        It is a DOS 16-bit program.

        • pjmlp 8 hours ago

          Yeah, I lost track of where it went back in Windows 9X days.

          Real BASIC seemed the only alternative to VB that was somehow still market relevant.

    • bencollver 18 hours ago

      Wasn't QBasic the interpreter as opposed to QuickBasic the compiler?

      • vunderba 17 hours ago

        It's been a long time, but my impression was that QuickBASIC had an interpreter and the ability to compile. Then later on, Microsoft bundled a more limited version called QBasic with later versions of MS DOS which lacked the compiler.

        But all of them (QBasic, QuickBASIC, Microsoft PDS, and even Visual Basic for DOS which almost nobody remembers sadly) had the editor, interpretative execution, and built-in help.

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      • DCKP 15 hours ago

        All this brings back fond memories of my first programming foray, an ASCII game in QBASIC from Mars and Back: Computer Programming Handbook by Andrew J. Read. So much fun, so much frustration.

      • analog31 17 hours ago

        This is what I recall too. QuickBasic was perhaps BASIC's answer to Turbo Pascal, a relatively lightweight but usable text based IDE. I knew some happy users.

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      • the_af 14 hours ago

        No, QuickBasic was both an interpreter and a compiler. QBasic was just an interpreter.

    • anthk 5 hours ago

      Kinda like any Forth. Even PForth has a bundled block editor and a rudimentary help system.

    • westurner 17 hours ago

      > The magic of QuickBasic was that it was an editor, interpreter, and help system all rolled up into a single EXE file. Punch F5 and watch your BAS file execute line-by-line.

      That's still how vscode works; F5 to debug and Ctrl-[Shift]-P like CtrlP.vim: https://code.visualstudio.com/docs/debugtest/debugging

      FWICS,

      The sorucoder.freebasic vscode extension has syntax highlighting: https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=sorucode...

      There's also an QB64Official/vscode extension that has syntax highlighting and keyboard shortcuts: https://github.com/QB64Official/vscode

      re: how qb64 and C-edit are like EDIT.COM, and GORILLA.BAS: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41410427

      C-edit: https://github.com/velorek1/C-edit

      • vunderba 17 hours ago

        I tried QB64 a couple years ago, but IIRC it's still compiled as opposed to interpretative, e.g. you can't Ctrl-Break and drop into the current executing line of BASIC code unless they've radically changed how it works.

      • 90s_dev 16 hours ago

        Rather, QB was the pico8 of the 1990s. Convenient, self-contained, mysterious, quasi-powerful, in-app help menu for the entire language and API, and a few built-in demo games.

  • WalterGR 18 hours ago

    > FreeBASIC is like Microsoft's QuickBASIC.

    Except that it doesn't emulate Microsoft's QuickBASIC, or ... ?

    • banana_giraffe 18 hours ago

      It does support "-lang qb" which is designed to specifically limit FreeBASIC to a QuickBASIC compatible dialect.

      • TonyTrapp 7 hours ago

        And more specifically, "-lang qb" is more or less how FreeBASIC started out. The more modern dialects came later, and became the default, hence the addition of "-lang qb".

larodi 7 hours ago

I really wonder why MS would not supper the whole BASIC legacy that anyway exists even without them.

andrea76 8 hours ago

Is there an ide with form designer like visual basic?

  • TonyTrapp 7 hours ago

    I think FBEdit was the closest to that, but like with most other languages, it never reached the same level of integration and quality because forms are simply not first-class citizens in FreeBASIC, unlike VB where the whole development process evoled around forms. You always need native GUI code or use a GUI library like GTK to achieve the same in FreeBASIC.

  • lproven 6 hours ago

    Not with FreeBASIC.

    Others that do: Gambas, Xojo, RAD BASIC, Twin BASIC.