Comment by LexiMax

Comment by LexiMax a day ago

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To me the value prospect of Proton falls down even before that - how can e-mail ever be a secure medium of communication if only one side of the conversation is secure, given how ubiquitous Google and Outlook are in the space?

pkaeding a day ago

This is a valid point, but emails between Proton users (or other users of PGP) will not be accessible. And, presumably, it will be harder to see your email if you use Proton, than if you used Google/Outlook if your adversary had to look through everyone else's email to find who corresponded with you.

zadokshi a day ago

proton account to proton account.

> how can e-mail ever be a secure medium

Email can be secure, it’s just that the big US players can’t or won’t agree to proton like privacy.

I am curious to know what is behind these big US companies being so anti privacy.

  • MYEUHD 12 hours ago

    > Email can be secure, it’s just that the big US players can’t or won’t agree to proton like privacy.

    Protonmail is not standards compilant. You can't login to your protonmail account from Thunderbird or k9 mail. Yes, they have an IMAP bridge, but it's proprietary / requires a paid account. Thus you're locked in to the official protonmail clients

  • jeffparsons 20 hours ago

    > I am curious to know what is behind these big US companies being so anti privacy.

    Google has an email service so that it can ingest all your communication and use it to better target ads. If Google didn't have access to the content of your emails, there wouldn't be much point to Gmail.

    Microsoft mostly cares about enterprises, and enterprises generally don't want E2EE email; they have legal requirements to retain e-mail of employees, and have their own reasons to want to be able to access employee emails sometimes.

    Apple... I don't know where they stand on this.