Comment by greyw

Comment by greyw a day ago

18 replies

In Switzerland you can change the constitution with popular votes. That only requires for 50% of the voters to agree and half of the cantons.

AnthonyMouse a day ago

Then get half the voters to agree to make it two thirds. After you put the other protections in, naturally.

  • philistine a day ago

    You’re arguing for massive changes to a very unique country with the oldest democracy in Europe. Unless you’re Swiss, or have credentials related to Swiss law, I don’t think you’re arguing anything realistic.

    • AnthonyMouse a day ago

      Countries can be as unique as they want to be, but they still need a system for preventing authoritarianism. The existing system is fine if it's effective and not fine if it isn't.

      • kragen a day ago

        Switzerland has been preventing authoritarianism since before it was cool. Like, for 700 years. (With a brief interruption when they were invaded and overthrown by Napoleon.) So their system for the first 600 of those 700 years was the best system for preventing authoritarianism; a lot of it survives today.

  • im3w1l a day ago

    Requiring 50% in a referendum is different from and safer than requiring 50% in a parliament vote. A parliament can go against the people that elected them.

    • AnthonyMouse a day ago

      It's an additional check. That's good, but it isn't always sufficient, because sometimes you can convince 51% of people to do something wrong.

      • KetoManx64 a day ago

        If you can convince 51% of the population to do something wrong than you're already screwed and have much bigger issues to worry about.