Comment by devwastaken

Comment by devwastaken a day ago

7 replies

Mullvad operates out of Sweden. Unlike proton, mullvad doesnt have to respond to court orders. proton gives up user info thousands a year its right on their transparency page.

KomoD a day ago

Correction:they do in fact have to respond to court orders, but they can't give any info as they simply do not have it.

  • ignoramous a day ago

    Mullvad stores account (kyc) + payment information in line with Swedish tax laws for (I think) 7 years.

    What Mullvad apparently don't have are data-plane logs. But then, surveillance laws mandate forceful & secret compliance in certain cases (Mullvad may be exempt but who knows: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43018290)

immibis a day ago

All entities with known physical addresses have to respond to court orders, or men with guns will break into those addresses and kidnap whoever is supposed to have responded.

Batman8675309 a day ago

Proton isn’t giving up VPN users. It’s giving up mail users. There’s a huge legal difference.