Comment by throwanem

Comment by throwanem 7 days ago

7 replies

Nothing could be worse for the modern Emacs ecosystem than for the tech industry finance vampires ("VCs," "LPs") to decide there's blood enough there to suck.

Fortunately, alien space magic seems immune, so far at least. I assume they do not like the taste, and no wonder.

imiric 6 days ago

Why should the Emacs community care whether someone decides to build a custom editor with AI features? If anything this would bring more interest and development into the ecosystem, which everyone would benefit from. Anyone not interested can simply ignore it, as we do for any other feature someone implements into their workflow.

  • tough 6 days ago

    what i find interesting is why is nobody building llms trained on using the shell and PTY at its full

    right now its dumb unix piping only

    I want an AI that can use emacs or vim with me

    • throwanem 6 days ago

      Elnode should make this very easy, given the triviality of the MCP "protocol."

      I would take care. Emacs has no internal boundaries by design and it comes with the ability to access files and execute commands on remote systems using your configured SSH credentials. Handing the keys to an enthusiastically helpy and somewhat cracked robot might prove so bad an idea you barely even have time to put your feet up on the dash before you go sailing through the windshield.

    • sokoloff 6 days ago

      There are tens (maybe low hundreds?) of thousands of people who want that.

      Which is exactly why it hasn’t been commercially developed.

      • tough 6 days ago

        yea... I guess is too niche, I guess scratch your own itch + foss it so the low hundreds of us can have fun or smt

        I was exploring using andyk/ht discussed on hn a few months back, to sit as a proxy my llm can call at the same time i control via xtermjs, but i need to figure out how to train the llm to output keybindings/special keys etc, but promising start nonetheless, i can indeed parse a lot of extra info than just a command, just imagine if AI could use all of the shell auto-complete features but feed into it..

        maybe i should revisit/cleanup that repo and make it public. It feels like with just some data training on special key bindings etc an llm should be able to type, even if -char by char- at a faster speed than a human, to control TUI's

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    • zaphar 6 days ago

      There are several neovim mcp providers that expose bash and neovim as a tool so you can already do that.