Comment by blibble

Comment by blibble 18 hours ago

10 replies

I don't think it is a bad analogy

given how complicated the boot process is ([1]), and it occurs once a month, I'd rather it was as deterministic as possible

vs. shaving 1% off the boot time

[1]: distros continue to ship subtlety broken unit files, because the model is too complicated

Aurornis 18 hours ago

Most systems do not have 5 minute POST times. That’s an extreme outlier.

Linux runs all over, including embedded systems where boot time is important.

Optimizing for edge cases on outliers isn’t a priority. If you need specific boot ordering, configure it that way. It doesn’t make sense for the entire Linux world to sacrifice boot speed.

  • timcobb 17 hours ago

    I don't even think my Pentium 166 took 5 minutes to POST. Did computers ever take that long to POST??

    • yjftsjthsd-h 16 hours ago

      Old machines probably didn't, no, but I have absolutely seen machines (Enterprise™ Servers) that took longer than that to get to the bootloader. IIRC it was mostly a combination of hardware RAID controllers and RAM... something. Testing?

      • lazide 15 hours ago

        It takes awhile to enumerate a couple TB worth of RAM dimms and 20+ disks.

    • BobbyTables2 17 hours ago

      Look at enterprise servers.

      Competing POST in under 2 minutes is not guaranteed.

      Especially the 4 socket beasts with lots of DIMMs.

    • Twirrim 15 hours ago

      Physical servers do. It's always astounding to me how long it takes to initialise all that hardware.

kcexn 16 hours ago

Oh? What's an example of a common way for unit files to be subtlely broken?