Comment by mceachen

Comment by mceachen 20 hours ago

17 replies

Driving with your lights off at dusk or dark gets you (rightfully) pulled over by law enforcement in CA. It's well-correllated with driving under the influence.

I'm a huge fan of many car safety regulations, but this isn't one.

(Sign me up for car-hiding-in-blind-spot notification lights on side mirrors, though, those are great)

smcleod 19 hours ago

I don't understand what you're saying here - you think it's good to have your lights turned on - but you don't want them to automatically turn on?

  • bluedays 17 hours ago

    Because of my ADHD I would constantly get pulled over if automatic lights were removed

  • sneak 19 hours ago

    I think they mean that it gives a clear signal to LEOs that the person driving is likely distracted/unfit.

    • smcleod 19 hours ago

      Everyone makes mistakes. It's important to make it easy to do the right thing.

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the_gipsy 20 hours ago

That doesn't make any sense. Eliminatung DUI is not a matter of detection, and automatic light sensors save lives.

  • margalabargala 20 hours ago

    It could make sense. We don't know the numbers.

    Let's say net X lives are saved each year because of automatic lights turning on.

    Let's say net Y lives would be saved each year without automatic lights, via more effective detection of drunk drivers and stopping them before they kill someone.

    Is X > Y? We don't know.

    > Eliminatung DUI is not a matter of detection

    There are a lot of avenues to decrease DUI, among which one is effective detection combined with enforcement.

    • smcleod 19 hours ago

      The EU has done lots of reach on road and car safety, there's lots of data out there - just perhaps not in the US as many American made cars have significantly lagged behind in terms of safety features.

      • throwawat19r83 19 hours ago

        I don't know if it's an EU rule, but in my (European) country cars are required to have their lights on at all times, even during the day. The lights switch on automatically when you start the car

    • cma 19 hours ago

      There may be something like that that does make it counterintuitive. Usually those kind of Malcom Gladwell paradoxes end up overstated.

      There would be other factors, like drunk people are probably safer with their lights on too. Lane keeping probably makes it harder to detect drunk drivers too but also may make them safer.

  • sneak 19 hours ago

    This is simply because police don’t do their jobs. It would be trivial to simply wait outside bars at 2AM and give out tons of DUIs but a significant percentage of the population are alcoholics and this would result in massive blowback against the police.

    Go to any small town watering hole at 2AM to see this in effect. The police have no legal obligation to prevent crime or enforce laws. None.