Comment by pjmlp

Comment by pjmlp a day ago

C++ was invented exactly because Bjarne Stroustoup vouched never again to repeat the downgrade of his development experience from Simula to BCPL.

When faced with writing a distributed systems application at Bell Labs, and having to deal with C, the very first step was to create C with Classes.

Also had C++ not been invented, or C gone into an history footnote, so what, there would be other programming languages to chose from.

Lets not put programming languages into some kind of worshiping sanctuary.

uecker 18 hours ago

I don't think C would have become a footnote if not for C++ given UNIX.

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pjmlp 17 hours ago

Most likely C++ would not happened, while at the same time C and UNIX adoption would never gotten big enough to be relevant outside Bell Labs.
Which then again, isn't that much of a deal, industry would have steered into other programming languages and operating systems.
Overall that would be a much preferable alternative timeline, assuming security would be taken more seriously, as it has taken 45 years since C.A.R Hoare Turing award speech and Morris worm, and only after companies and government started to feel the monetary pain of their decisions.

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- uecker 11 hours ago
  
  I think there are very good reasons why C and UNIX were successful and are still around as foundational technologies. Nor do I think C or UNIX legacy are the real problem we have with security. Instead, complexity is the problem.
  
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  pjmlp 9 hours ago
  
  Starting by being available for free with source code tapes, and a commented source code book.
  History would certainly have taken a different path when AT&T was allowed to profit from Bell Labs work, as their attempts to later regain control from UNIX prove.
  Unfortunately that seems the majority opinion on WG14, only changed thanks to government and industry pressure.
  
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  uecker 7 hours ago
  
  Being free was important and history could have taken many paths, but this does not explain why it is still important today and has not been replaced despite many alternatives. WG14 consists mostly of industry representatives.
  
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