margalabargala 13 hours ago

Looking at what's missing from their roadmap here: https://puri.sm/products/librem-5/

No videos? Fine, I rarely take videos.

No bluetooth? Mildly annoying, but especially with the 3.5mm jack, I could live without it.

No GPS? This one would be a deal-breaker for me.

But depending on the person I can see it being usable.

  • teddyh 10 hours ago

    That image is seriously out of date. Bluetooth, GPS, and even recording video all work fine.

    • margalabargala 8 hours ago

      That's great to know; but Purism really ought update that, I'm sure they are losing sales from that being so out of date.

    • seba_dos1 9 hours ago

      Video recording implementation could be better though, but other stuff works well indeed :)

      In fact all things from that chart are there and have been there for years now, including 20h battery life and encrypted SIP calls.

  • AAAAaccountAAAA 11 hours ago

    Ouch. It seems to be even more incomplete than I thought. The lack of Bluetooth and GPS is kind of surprising, since those things have worked on Linux laptops for at least a couple of decades or so.

    • seba_dos1 9 hours ago

      Both work fine on Librem 5 as well and have worked for years now.

  • jasode 10 hours ago

    >No bluetooth? Mildly annoying, but especially with the 3.5mm jack, I could live without it.

    For most people, it can be difficult to predict future scenarios for Bluetooth that's unrelated to wireless earphones. I always use wired earphones and didn't think I ever needed Bluetooth and always had it disabled. However, I was later forced to use it to configure new devices. E.g.:

    - internet router (Eero) from ISP has no buttons or a status display so required Bluetooth on smartphone to configure it

    - battery backup power station (Delta Ecoflow) require Bluetooth to configure them

    The common theme is for device manufacturers to avoid adding elaborate LCD displays or touchscreen interfaces to the actual device and instead -- offload the configuration UI to the customers' smartphones... which necessitates pairing via Bluetooth.

    • amlib 9 hours ago

      > offload the configuration UI to the customers' smartphones... which necessitates pairing via Bluetooth.

      And an app that eventually gets delisted or whatever and your interfaceless device gets turned into a pumpkin...

seba_dos1 8 hours ago

It works fine for me, I'm typing this on one right now. I'm still waiting for something that could replace it as it gets older, but I don't see anything viable out there yet.

The question is whether you're able to live without Android & iOS, perhaps with some limited help from Waydroid. If the answer is yes, as it is for me, then it's a great daily driver.

craftkiller 12 hours ago

I'm just a single data point, but FWIW after the first week the only time I ever (literally) dust off my librem 5 is to show people what a joke of a phone I waited 4 years for. Purism had the right goals (mainline linux kernel, no run-time loadable closed sourced blobs, user-serviceable, hardware kill-switches) but the implementation is only worthy of a participation trophy. The phone would randomly drop calls (though I've heard this is finally fixed), the UI was terrible (UI elements rendered partially off-screen, a useless maps application that complained about a missing location service), the battery life is so terrible that carrying around a 2nd battery is common advice, and the hardware was anemic back when the phone was announced which made the difference even more noticeable when the phone finally came out half a decade later.

I'm glad I own the phone for the same reason that I regret not holding on to my G1 (the first android phone): Its a neat piece of history. But alas, it will never see use as an actual phone.