Comment by Retric

Comment by Retric 14 hours ago

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The idea of retirement is literally thousands of years old at this point. Hell the Roman Empire even had the idea of pensions though it wasn’t that common at the time.

Aging inherently means being unable to be an independent productive member of society at some point. (Ed: well past what we consider retirement age.) Historically in agrarian societies few people reached this point so it wasn’t generally a significant burden to support them. What changed is lowering the retirement age and increased the number of people who live long enough to see it.

esperent 14 hours ago

> Historically in agrarian societies few people reached this point so it wasn’t generally a significant burden to support them

This isn't true.

https://www.campop.geog.cam.ac.uk/blog/2024/08/15/three-scor...

> ...in England, average life expectancy at birth varied between 35 and 40 years in the centuries between 1600 and 1800. It is a common misconception that, when life expectancy was so low, there must have been very few old people. In fact, the most common age for adult deaths was around 70 years, in line with the Biblical three score years and ten.

  • Retric 14 hours ago

    You misunderstood what I was describing. 70 year olds can be quite productive doing manual labor in a way that basically no 90 year olds can.

  • RankingMember 14 hours ago

    Yep, infant mortality skews the average and has often led to this kind of misconception