esafak 18 hours ago

In the context of this discussion, the result has to be of value to someone else, that's all. Then you can haggle over how valuable it is. When it is for yourself, the currency is time and energy; you ponder how much to invest on one task versus another.

closewith 20 hours ago

Well, it is, and the workload of ablution becomes greater as you age.

alabastervlog 21 hours ago

I like to use a fuzzy definition (though, all definitions are fuzzy—what's a chair? Good luck...) based on whether it's common for someone with the means to do so, to pay others to do it for them, by choice and not due to disability or something like that.

Taking a shit? Not work. Cleaning the toilet? Work.

Eating dinner? Not work. Cooking dinner? Work.

Playing badminton on your lawn? Not work. Mowing the lawn? Work.

Napping on your Ikea couch? Not work. Assembling that couch? Work.

  • robertlagrant 20 hours ago

    How do you define "retirement"?

    • fwip 19 hours ago

      When you have enough money that you no longer do work for more?