Comment by pabs3

Comment by pabs3 a day ago

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The FSF has moved address at least once, and more recently, now closed their offices entirely. I wonder if the new owners of their old addresses will or did get confused by copy-of-GPL requests.

vinceguidry a day ago

Postman probably just redirects, with a business or institution it's easy to just have the Post Office direct all mail addressed to "Free Software Foundation" to the current address.

  • bluGill a day ago

    For a few months. The post office will do it for anyone for a few months, but then they stop forwarding mail. Maybe businesses get that treatment longer, but when people move they only get a few months.

    • thesuitonym a day ago

      Standard mail forwarding is one year, and you can extend that for an additional 18 months. I don't know of any reasonable person who would call that "a few months"

    • jen20 a day ago

      Standard US Mail forwarding is 12 months and may be extended for a further 18 months.

  • pabs3 a day ago

    They don't have a current address to redirect to, they went completely virtual.

mattl 20 hours ago

I used to work at the FSF and one of my jobs was replying to these letters. They would be so infrequent by 2008 that I think I handled less than 10 in my time there. I sent way more copies of books to prisoners who requested them, gave more tours of the office, etc. I also did some other stuff when I worked there but if you were to look at the FSF website today you might think I’m still there as pages often have the name of the person who created the page listed as the author still.

The FSF has moved a few times.

* 675 Mass Ave, Cambridge.

* 59 Temple Place, Boston

* 51 Franklin St, Boston

* 31 Milk Street, Boston

The first address wasn’t around for too long, but does still exist. It’s an office building above a bank in Central Square, Cambridge right above the Red Line stop.

The second address was around for a long, long time. A few years ago, the building was demolished and turned into a hotel. I don’t know if 59 Temple Place is still a valid address or not. For this one, I found many of most frequent places and filed bugs to get it updated. Greg K-H helped me update the kernel and many of the issues I opened got resolved with other projects. Worth noting too that the FSF had two different offices in the same building but mail would go to the building. Mail did forward from here to the next address for a while, but I’m not sure if it’ll forward again to the latest address.

51 Franklin St is just around the corner from 59 Temple Place. When they moved here, many staff were able to walk their stuff over to the new office. This one finally closed last year. I worked here my entire time at the FSF.

The final one is a PO Box but also around the corner from 51 Franklin St.

  • Thoreandan 19 hours ago

    I'd always wanted to see a physical copy of the $5,000.00 'Deluxe Distribution' -

    https://web.cecs.pdx.edu/~trent/gnu/bull/16/gnu_bulletin_23....

    > The FSF Deluxe Distribution contains the binaries and sources to hundreds of different programs including GNU Emacs, the GNU C Compiler, the GNU Debugger, the complete MIT X Window System, and the GNU utilities.

    > You may choose one of these machines and operating systems: HP 9000 series 200, 300, 700, or 800 (4.3 BSD or HP-UX); RS/6000 (AIX); Sony NEWS 68k (4.3 BSD or NewsOS 4); Sun 3, 4, or SPARC (SunOS 4 or Solaris). If your machine or system is not listed, or if a specific program has not been ported to that machine, please call the FSF office at the phone number below or send e-mail to gnu@prep.ai.mit.edu.

    > The manuals included are one each of the Bison, Calc, Gawk, GNU C Compiler, GNU C Library, GNU Debugger, Flex, GNU Emacs Lisp Reference, Make, Texinfo, and Termcap manuals; six copies of the manual for GNU Emacs; and a packet of reference cards each for GNU Emacs, Calc, the GNU Debugger, Bison, and Flex.

    > In addition to the printed and on-line documentation, every Deluxe Distribution includes a CD-ROM (in ISO 9660 format with Rock Ridge extensions) that contains sources of our software.

    I wonder how many (if any?) were sold, it'd be an excellent museum piece.

    • mattl 19 hours ago

      By the time I joined in 2008, I don't think they were being offered anymore as IIRC the person locally who was handling the compiling and tape archiving didn't have access to the systems anymore.

  • Sesse__ 2 hours ago

    Debian also has a packaging lint rule telling people to update the FSF postal address. So much energy must be wasted in this. :-)