Comment by marxisttemp

Comment by marxisttemp 16 hours ago

People with bulky keychains often just throw them in their bag or purse and it can be annoying to fish them out.

I personally put a very high value on having a minimal keychain and wallet since I rarely carry a bag with me. The goal is to someday live in a state with Apple Wallet drivers’ license support, in a house with NFC smart locks, driving a car with Apple Car Key, at which point I could finally completely jettison my keys and my MagSafe wallet. I don’t want to carry physical keys when I’m already constantly carrying a device with a Secure Enclave and biometrics.

blacksmith_tb 14 hours ago

A beautiful aspiration, until you lose or break your phone...

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vel0city 13 hours ago

People lose wallets. People lose car keys.
My PaaK car has a backup passphrase to start it. I can be used in a pinch if my phone isn't working. I can't say the same if I lose my car key.
If I go on a long trip I'm likely to bring multiple car keys and multiple payment methods. This is still true if I'm doing PaaK.

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- blacksmith_tb 11 hours ago
  
  They do, and obviously it's a huge headache. But now we can imagine a bright future where you can lose both, and your normal way to try and get help, all at once!
  
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  vel0city 10 hours ago
  
  > But now we can imagine a bright future where you can lose both, and your normal way to try and get help, all at once!
  Still a possibility with cut keys, paper currency, and dumb cell phones. Ever have all of those things in a bag and have that bag stolen?
  At least with the PaaK car I have, there's a backup passphrase as well.
  As I mentioned elsewhere, I'll trade the slightly worse day maybe once a decade+ (or quite possibly never!) for the convenience every single other day. If I'm smashing my phone every few days I'll probably rethink that strategy. But I'll probably want to change whatever is causing me to smash my phone every few days.
  
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- cholantesh 13 hours ago
  
  And people don't lose phones?
  
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  vel0city 13 hours ago
  
  > My PaaK car has a backup passphrase to start it
  Cars that need a physical cut key to go into a cylinder don't usually have backup passphrases.
  
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ryandrake 13 hours ago

Or if you don't tend to bring your phone with you to do a bunch of errands. If all my locks were tied to my phone, I'd have to fish it out of the drawer whenever I go anywhere. OP said he "constantly" carries his phone with him, so maybe not a problem for him. Am I the only person in the world who leaves the phone at home if I'm not planning to use it?

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- zzyzxd 7 hours ago
  
  I am also one of those guys don't always carry my phone around. That's why I load my keys and credit cards on Apple Watch, turned off most of the notifications on it, and only allow calls and text messages from wife.
  
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- vel0city 13 hours ago
  
  > Am I the only person in the world who leaves the phone at home if I'm not planning to use it?
  But I would use it, even on a trip to get groceries. I'd use it as the source of the media I listen to in the car, so my audiobook starts playing wirelessly when I get in. My phone has the shopping list on it shared between my wife and I, so we always have it if either one of us decide to make a quick stop.
  
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brk 15 hours ago

Not sure why you're being downvoted, I'm exactly the same. House locks are already electronic/automated, haven't carried a physical house key in year. Cars use fobs, for newer vehicles there is no option for physical keys anyway. When I leave the house I take my phone, plus the solo fob for whatever vehicle I am driving. I have no desire to have a ring of multiple physical keys and fobs with me.

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cholantesh 14 hours ago

Because it's a wild rube goldberg solution to a minor inconvenience.

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