Comment by JumpCrisscross

Comment by JumpCrisscross 8 days ago

5 replies

Eh, I’ve railed quite a bit against the left. But looking back, we should have fired and deplatformed more aggressively. The social menaces who weren’t fired or arrested went on to become a plague.

iugtmkbdfil834 8 days ago

Good grief man, deplatforming, chilling speech and all that is how we got into this mess to begin with. Have you learned nothing from the past 10 years?

edit: Holy mackarel, I am this close to accepting the argument that the people on 'the left' need to be treated that exact way you described just so that they can understand why 'the right' feel aggrevied. I simply cannot accept Soviet Union style 'do not employ this man' brand. I feel dirty just thinking about it as an option.

  • JumpCrisscross 7 days ago

    > am this close to accepting the argument that the people on 'the left' need to be treated that exact way you described

    Yup, I’ve lost patience with the far left as well. This is in practice happening with e.g. nutters who openly supported Hamas, though as these things always go, the only people actually willing to do this to people go too far both in their metric and treatment. (The left, to its credit, was never deporting people for their views.)

    > Have you learned nothing from the past 10 years?

    Yes. I spent too much time treating everyone’s views as valid. The paradox of tolerance is real, and if someone insists on being an idiot I’m basically at the point of taking them at their word.

    > cannot accept Soviet Union style 'do not employ this man' brand

    It’s not. It’s do not put this person in a position of responsibility or visibility. They can make a livelihood. It just shouldn’t be one from which they do harm.

    • iugtmkbdfil834 6 days ago

      It is possible we are just at different stages of a similar journey. I will take this Sunday to reflect on this.

noworriesnate 8 days ago

The thing is, right wingers are very likely to protest over losing jobs. In Covid times, what made the right finally start actually marching in the streets was losing their jobs. They don’t protest over most things, but threaten their livelihood and yeah they’ll come for you.

  • JumpCrisscross 8 days ago

    > right wingers are very likely to protest over losing jobs

    Everybody protests over losing jobs. Currently, the MAGA crowd is busily putting itself out of work, so this really only comes down to taking action in the cities.