Comment by freedomben

Comment by freedomben 8 days ago

9 replies

I mostly agree with you.

> Those both seem pretty obvious, but put the two of them together and it means people can lose their jobs or not be hired for stuff they tweet. How do you resolve that?

If the employer happened to see it, then yes I think that's well within rights. But I think having some random stranger see something and actively campaign against the employee to their employer is a little bit different. It's not illegal, nor should it be, but there are plenty of things that are legal but still not good behavior. I would consider this under that umbrella.

wat10000 8 days ago

OK, it's bad behavior. Now what? That means nothing.

  • stale2002 8 days ago

    Harassment can be punished by the law. So that is the "now what".

    No, freedom of speech doesn't mean that you can engage in serious harassment of people, their workplace, or their children or family.

    • wat10000 8 days ago

      The scenario being discussed is employers looking at employees’ public statements, or third parties telling employers about those public statements. I don’t think that’s anything close to harassment.

      • stale2002 8 days ago

        No actually. It is never just that.

        The question was about "to get a social media frenzy going".

        And this is never just an employer randomly looking at a tweet, for which they are almost never going to do anything about it. Most employers don't care.

        Instead, the much more likely scenario is mass points of harassment, stalking, and death threats targeted at people's friends and family, when such a "social media frenzy" happens.

        You cannot ignore the actual mostly likely result of your advocacy. And when you just say that this is all "free speech" you are doing disservice to the massive amount of illegal harassment that these internet mobs cause.

        You do not control the mob, yet you are response for its harm anyway if you try to start one.

  • freedomben 8 days ago

    Should we encourage bad behavior? I tend to think not. Agreeing it is bad behavior is a critical step! Now we can start discouraging it