Comment by bsder

Comment by bsder a day ago

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Martin Luther King was pretty clear what he thought of "the middle":

> I must confess that over the past few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Counciler or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to 'order' than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice

FeepingCreature a day ago

I think holding political opinions on the basis of what a famous (historical) person feels about them is sort of the thing being criticized here.

  • saagarjha a day ago

    Sounds like a kind of dumb thing to criticize, then. Picking the side of Martin Luther King Jr. on civil rights is…uh…kind of a difficult position to argue against.

    • ryandrake 17 hours ago

      Yet, huge swaths of the US electorate to this day oppose Martin Luther King Jr.'s goals, message, methods, and outcomes.

  • goatlover a day ago

    It's an example of when "not being tribal" is wrong, because one side wanted to keep denying civil rights to a group of people. The correct side was to protest and put pressure on the system. Take the war in Ukraine. There isn't a middle ground between resisting Russian aggression for Ukrainians and fighting back. You either resist, or you get conquered. Not all issues and situations have some happy middle ground where both sides are equal parts wrong/right.

    • shw1n a day ago

      you can be "not tribal" and still protest/put pressure on the system, has nothing to do with being moderate

      tribalism refers to how you get your beliefs, not what you do with them

shw1n a day ago

yep, this is the "intentional" moderate which I also classify as tribal

distinctly different from the "accidental" moderate who could harbor indignation against racial prejudice as one of their views

https://www.paulgraham.com/mod.html

  • bsder 14 hours ago

    The person receiving the pointy end of a spear doesn't much care whether you explicitly chose to stab him or whether you stabbed him because you are following your tribe.