palata 4 days ago

To me it's just not an encrypted messaging app. I don't even get all the discussions about it...

It's a bit like if we analysed the E2EE guarantees of email over and over again. Every year, multitudes of people would publish a post explaining how email is "badly encrypted". Well, email is not E2EE, period. If you want E2EE, use a system that has E2EE.

  • maqp 3 days ago

    That would be fine unless Telegram

    1) Didn't say it was "Heavily encrypted" on its front page.

    2) Didn't claim it was more private than WhatsApp which is always end-to-end encrypted with Signal protocol.

    3) Didn't claim secret chats were somehow adequate.

emptysongglass 3 days ago

You're again linking to old critiques of an old protocol no longer in use. Can you stop doing that, please?

  • maqp 3 days ago

    No. I will not stop pointing out the hubris and nepotism in the company. No real changes have been made in who's designing security for Telegram, so their past is their future. Incompetent people doing crap job.

    • emptysongglass 3 days ago

      Except to the protocol, which you continue to post aged posts identifying vulnerabilities that have nothing to do with the rewritten version. That is not honest presentation of the facts.

      • maqp 3 days ago

        >That is not honest presentation of the facts.

        They have f'd up in the past, and since they still employ the same incompetent nepo-hirings, they will continue to f up in the future.

        Until they own their mistakes and E2EE everything, like they should have done in the first place, I will keep pointing out their incompetence, past and present.

        You do not get to rewrite their history by telling people to shut up.