Comment by Timon3

Comment by Timon3 11 days ago

8 replies

The author is using a trick they've used in almost every past submission: They implement much less than the component they compare themselves to, and then show how much smaller their own solution is.

tipiirai 11 days ago

How is the SPA less than the button?

  • aziaziazi 11 days ago

    It’s not the button that’s big but the stack [0]

    > Built with Vite, TypeScript, Tailwind, and Shadcn/UI, following the official ShadCN/Vite documentation exactly — no additions or removals.

    Would be interesting to run Webpack Bundle Analyser [1] (or similar for vite bundler) to see if the proposed stack in the doc is bloated by some major dependencies.

    0 https://nuejs.org/docs/react-button-vs-nue.html

    1 https://www.npmjs.com/package/webpack-bundle-analyzer

    Edit : seems the question I was responding for was a rhetoric question posted by the author. I guess the « smaller that a button » is a smart catchphrase but I wouldn’t use it for too long as soon a Nue becomes popular. Great work, I wish you much success and hope to use it in day to day work some time soon !

  • Timon3 11 days ago

    Does your button component implement all the functionality included in the Vite/shadcn bundle? E.g. the different variants, states, loading etc.?

    I'm sorry if it does, then I'll take my accusation back, but I've seen this happen in almost all of your Nue submissions. People keep bringing up this criticism, and you never retract your misleading comparisons.

    • tipiirai 11 days ago

      The Nue button demo isn’t claiming to replicate every feature of the Vite/ShadCN bundle—no variants, states, or loading spinners here, just a lean example to show size and simplicity. The point’s not to ‘beat’ ShadCN at its own game but to highlight how web standards can cut bloat dramatically, like a button smaller than a full SPA. I get the criticism—comparisons can feel loaded—but it’s less about misleading and more about spotlighting a different approach. Happy to tweak the framing if it’s coming off wrong.

      • Timon3 11 days ago

        > The point’s not to ‘beat’ ShadCN at its own game but to highlight how web standards can cut bloat dramatically, like a button smaller than a full SPA.

        Then why isn't there any disclaimer or explanation that your Nue button has fewer features than the one you compare it to? You clearly intend for the reader to make this comparison, but you deceive them by not mentioning that your solution isn't equivalent.

        > Happy to tweak the framing if it’s coming off wrong.

        It would be great if you could do that! Though I'm not holding my breath - you've done this many times before, people have complained many times before, and you keep doing it.

        I know I'm just one voice, but your marketing strategy is so deliberately deceitful that I'll honestly never consider Nue as a serious contender for any project, nor other software you write, until you stop doing this.

      • albedoa 11 days ago

        Let's try this a different way: What would it take for you to retract your misleading comparisons?

        You keep acknowledging and then repeating the deceit. You even solicit ways to stop being deceitful only to reject the many suggestions.

        > Happy to tweak the framing if it’s coming off wrong.

        It's coming off wrong (because it is wrong). So go ahead, your move.

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