Comment by Imustaskforhelp

Comment by Imustaskforhelp 5 months ago

Also I had read somewhere about a really strange conspiracy theory which really made me question if we can really be against government and big tech (since "lobbying" is made official) but if 5 eyes (the billionaires?) really wanted (heck only if UK + australia wanted , australia police is given the ability to remotely plant data in nation's interest and uk also is getting apple to force data to be leaked in the apple ecosystem and who knows what else. Its only a matter of time that they put 2+2 together (or they have?) and use it to plant CSAM (yes NSA has distributed CSAM for the purposes of catching people , so I wonder if such 5 eyes also have these , please hackernews moderators just because I have mentioned CSAM , don't remove this comment I suppose)

and carrying CSAM is a serious offense and you will get into jail for it. and the jail prisoners aren't kind to CSAM convicted prisoners and they would bully them immensely , maybe even cause them to suicide or just make their life hell.

hirvi74 5 months ago

OK, story time.

I have friend/old-coworker that left my current employer for our state's version of the FBI. While no worker in his agency handled CSAM cases full-time, they all have to do rotations.

There is a lot he could not tell me about the work he did, and how they managed the detain suspects. But I do remember him telling me that he witnessed things that he thought were not even possible. Considering we were both developers, I take his word for it.

Anyway, I once asked him, "What is stopping you all from beaming CSAM on a person's computer, and then targeting that individual?" He paused for a second and said, "Well, we would never do that..." I asked again, "Sure, but what is stopping you all from doing that?" He said, "Well, nothing... but we wouldn't do that..."

Right then, my heart had this sinking feeling. While he is probably right, it did instill a sense of "Well, you never know..." in me. Do I believe most people convicted of CSAM are guilty? Absolutely. Everyone? Perhaps not. Still, good luck convincing a tech illiterate jury of your peers that "the government did it to me!" As far as I am concerned, once charged with such crimes, one is guilty until proven innocent.

I have always believed that if 'they' want you bad enough, then they will get you. By 'they', I mean any of the powers that be -- government, organized criminals, etc..

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Imustaskforhelp 5 months ago

Dude , I am not kidding , but this gave me so many goosebumps.
Goosebumps on my f'ing face.
And I was thinking this on 5 eyes level but you are saying a single country can do that?
When I had discovered that conspiracy theory which I now believe is true to some degree.
I then used to think, what if they want you to believe that you hold a chance. They don't want you to know they can get you as you are saying it. They want to give you the illusion of freedom. They will target their opposition , journalists with this if all goes south. There are also secret courts.
May I ask , if they can always get you why don't they use this in making their opposition go poof. If I am being extra conspiracist now , is it that they want you to give the freedom b/w 2 systems both of which don't change things really that much. Both political parties are kind of the same thing
but dude what the actual fuck.
They can use csam to break general encryption by saying it's bad for children etc, they can use csam to punish those they want.
I am now seriously wondering if I even have real tangible choice in the government.
I am now wondering if I am literally living in 1984. What if these wars and shit are just a distraction , yes they happen but...
Dude I have come to a realisation, I am seriously living in 1984. Reward is given to those who comply , those who aren't skeptics , skeptics are brushed off as conspiracist.

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