Comment by wat10000

Comment by wat10000 2 days ago

14 replies

Do you like them turning up a wasteful $8 billion contract that turned out to be $8 million, but they’re a bunch of incompetent ninnies who can’t even verify they have the right number of zeroes in their figures before they tell the world?

andsoitis 2 days ago

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  • lokar 2 days ago

    Aiui, the 8M contract was not fraudulent, they just disagree with it. Also, it was multi-year and less then half has been paid out.

    • andsoitis 2 days ago

      Great that all of that information is getting published so we can judge for ourselves the efficacy of both the relevant agency or department, but also effectiveness of the DOGE.

  • wat10000 2 days ago

    Are you saying that federal spending should always be done in chunks of less than $8 million?

    • andsoitis 2 days ago

      > Are you saying that federal spending should always be done in chunks of less than $8 million?

      I'm saying that focusing on an incorrect zero ($8b) distracts from the fact that $8m is easily spent wastefully by people (and systems) whose job it should be to be accurate.

      • Volundr 2 days ago

        > whose job it should be to be accurate.

        Surely the people doing an audit should be just as accurate no? If they can't keep track of (several) zeros how can you trust them to accurately work through all the documentation involved in figuring out what is waste, what is fraud, and what is legitimate spending?

        I'd actually support this effort if there was evidence any care was being taken. Instead I see wild statements like this, 100 million spent on condoms, people in the SSA database being too old with no discussion of if they are actually receiving payments or not (oh look they aren't!)

        A real audit take time, discipline and attention to detail. I see none of that.

      • wat10000 2 days ago

        Can you trust their assessment of wastefulness when you can't trust them to be within 1000x of the actual amount supposedly being wasted?

        Beyond that, you're not going to make the Federal government efficient by cutting $8 million at a time. Musk's goal is $2 trillion in cuts. He said he thinks there's a good shot at achieving $1 trillion. The deficit in 2024 was $1.8 trillion. If your top item is $8 million, your task is utterly hopeless. Imagine being a family drowning in debt, with expenses exceeding income by $330,000/year, and a financial planner comes in and says that your top priority is not to buy that hot dog at the Costco food court this weekend. Not even that you should stop buying hot dogs weekly, that you should not buy one. They make you a list of things you should stop spending money on, and "One Costco hot dog combo planned to be purchased sometime in the coming year" is top of the list. Oh, and they also have it listed as saving you $1,500 because they didn't actually check the cost of a hot dog before they gave you the list.

        • andsoitis 2 days ago

          > Can you trust their assessment of wastefulness

          No we can’t because they control the narrative. There should be more transparency in an objective manner without using the qualifiers like “wasteful” so that readers can decide for themselves. Or at the very least express both the arguments for and against, similar to how voter guides often come with a listing of arguments from both sides of the coin.

      • larksimian 2 days ago

        Yeah, what's 3 orders of magnitude wrong between strong and stable geniuses.

        They're claiming to cut $16b and actually only cut like $6b and none of it was actually fraudulent it just literally matched grep trans or something.

        I know this is how I and my definitely not a bot liberal friend want our country to be governed, fellow humans. beep boop bzzzzzzt

        • vuln 2 days ago

          > it just literally matched grep trans or something.

          Do you have a source for this opinion presented as a fact?