Comment by wallaBBB

Comment by wallaBBB 2 days ago

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One thing I (intuitively) don't doubt - that they spent less money for developing R1 than OpenAI spent on marketing, lobbying and management compensation.

pertymcpert 2 days ago

What makes you say that? Do you think Chinese top tier talent is cheap?

  • wallaBBB 2 days ago

    I did not refer to the talent directly contributing to the technical progress.

    P.S. - clarification: I mean not referring to talent at OpenAI. And yes I have very little doubt talent at DeepSeek is a lot cheaper than the things I listed above for OpenAI. I would be interested in a breakdown of the cost of OpenAI and seeing if even their technical talent costs more than the things I mentioned.

    • pertymcpert 2 days ago

      Do you think 1.5M a year compensation is cheap? That’s in the range of OpenAI offers.

  • anonzzzies 2 days ago

    What is cheap? But compared to the US, yes. Almost everywhere talent is 'cheap' compared to the US unless they move to the US.

    • pertymcpert 2 days ago

      How experienced are you with Chinese AI talent compensation?

  • victorbjorklund 2 days ago

    I'm sure the salaries at Deepseek in China were lower than the salaries at OpenAI.

    • pertymcpert 2 days ago

      How are you sure about that?

      • victorbjorklund a day ago

        A qualified guess. Do you have something that indicates dev salaries are lower in US vs China?

  • amunozo 2 days ago

    Definitely cheaper than American top tier talent

    • pertymcpert 2 days ago

      How much cheaper? I’m curious because I’ve seen the offers that Chinese tech companies pay and it’s in the millions for the top talent.