Comment by ZeroGravitas

Comment by ZeroGravitas 3 days ago

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Marco Rubio has been very vocal on his support for USAID for years if you want to see what the traditional right wing take on this has been. "Critical to our security" etc. And he is of course in charge of the smoking remains of it now.

troupo 3 days ago

The "traditional right wing" has been vocal about many things over the years. Nearly every single one has bent their knee.

  • amanaplanacanal 3 days ago

    Conservatism is pretty much dead in the US. It's all about cults of personality and grievance now.

    Oh, and of course, graft.

    • soraminazuki 3 days ago

      Conservatism before Trump was George W Bush, and while they're very different, it definitely wasn't all sunshine and roses. I don't remember a time in my lifetime when conservatism represented anything good.

      • amanaplanacanal 2 days ago

        I'm a boomer, so I at least remember a time when it was at least more consistently about some sort of values. The Republican party has been through so many changes since then.

        • ModernMech 2 days ago

          However, my entire life Republicans have been the party the KKK is happy to vote for. For a long time that was dismissed as not a problem because they were seen as a fringe, but people pointed out that if your party platform is attractive to the KKK, that is a problem -- you have to kick those people out or they invite their friends and their friends bring worse and worse people.

          Lo and behold, the KKK contingent took over the entire party, to the point Liz Cheney (of all people) got kicked out. And the KKK, neo-Nazis, neo-feudalists, Christian nationalists fringes banded together in common cause.

          So yes, the Republican party doesn't look like it did 40 years ago, but at the same time it looks exactly like it did 40 years ago.

DanielHB 3 days ago

International aid is such a cheap way to get soft-power while also being able to, you know, help people. Even if a lot of it is misused or inefficiently used the soft-power is there.

A lot of that soft-power has been spent on getting other countries to be more democratic, which is a good thing. Although I don't doubt it has been used for bad reasons as well.

DanielHB 3 days ago

The funny thing is just how inverted the situation is, for years leftists were saying that this kind of foreign aid is often used to hold small countries hostage. While the right wanted to keep the soft-power the aid gives and claiming this kind of aid is used to keep countries democratic.

Now the right is "screw soft-power" and the left is "think of the children". And in the middle people suffering like always.

The worse part is that a lot/most of that aid is probably of very benign influence, but it is definitely also used for nefarious reasons.

  • ZeroGravitas 3 days ago

    This is dangerous sanewashing.

    When Trump attacks USAID (or the CIA or the FBI) from the nationalist authoritarian right, it in no way counterbalances people criticizing it from the left.

    In particular, the left criticism of USAID were always "think of the children" because they wanted it to do that more and better. They have remained consistent in that.