Comment by helsinkiandrew

Comment by helsinkiandrew 2 days ago

9 replies

> Family-sized egg operations create resiliency

This would probably create resiliency for egg supply, but given that a source of bird flu is wild birds and transfer to and from humans would increase mutations wouldn't it likely increase probability of more bird flu and more human cases?

rscho 2 days ago

It would likely much increase salmonella infections. Which currently appears as a far nastier problem.

  • Cthulhu_ 2 days ago

    How's that? I know American eggs get cleaned and bleached, but that doesn't happen in Europe yet salmonella is not a huge issue.

    (cleaning eggs also removes some of its natural barriers, making it mandatory to refrigerate them to keep them edible)

    • rscho 2 days ago

      Industrial eggs are tightly controlled. Homemade eggs are far more susceptible to infection. AFAIK, scrubbing eggs like in the US is generally a bad idea, and results in the need to refrigerate them.

      • JumpCrisscross 2 days ago

        > Homemade eggs are far more susceptible to infection

        Source? I buy small-farm eggs all the time. The industrial ones need sanitisation because of the literally shit condition the birds are kept in.

      • jagged-chisel 2 days ago

        This doesn’t explain the lack of salmonella from eggs in Europe

        • rscho 2 days ago

          Huh ? Yes, it does. Same reason as in the US: industrial eggs are tightly controlled.

    • razakel 2 days ago

      Chickens are vaccinated in Europe.

    • thaawyy33432434 2 days ago

      lack of bleaching force owners to keep high standard (hygiene and vaccinations)

      If you wash your eggs before using them, you will never get salmonella.

      • 9dev 2 days ago

        But you will get rotten eggs easily.

        In thirty years in Europe, I’ve had a single incidence of salmonella infection when I handled egg shells badly while doing a Carbonara (which requires raw eggs to be spread right over the plate). This really, really isn’t a problem if you follow minimal hygiene when cooking (don’t touch food after touching shells without washing your hands in between.