Comment by helsinkiandrew

Comment by helsinkiandrew 10 months ago

9 replies

> Family-sized egg operations create resiliency

This would probably create resiliency for egg supply, but given that a source of bird flu is wild birds and transfer to and from humans would increase mutations wouldn't it likely increase probability of more bird flu and more human cases?

rscho 10 months ago

It would likely much increase salmonella infections. Which currently appears as a far nastier problem.

  • Cthulhu_ 10 months ago

    How's that? I know American eggs get cleaned and bleached, but that doesn't happen in Europe yet salmonella is not a huge issue.

    (cleaning eggs also removes some of its natural barriers, making it mandatory to refrigerate them to keep them edible)

    • rscho 10 months ago

      Industrial eggs are tightly controlled. Homemade eggs are far more susceptible to infection. AFAIK, scrubbing eggs like in the US is generally a bad idea, and results in the need to refrigerate them.

      • JumpCrisscross 10 months ago

        > Homemade eggs are far more susceptible to infection

        Source? I buy small-farm eggs all the time. The industrial ones need sanitisation because of the literally shit condition the birds are kept in.

      • jagged-chisel 10 months ago

        This doesn’t explain the lack of salmonella from eggs in Europe

        • rscho 10 months ago

          Huh ? Yes, it does. Same reason as in the US: industrial eggs are tightly controlled.

    • razakel 10 months ago

      Chickens are vaccinated in Europe.

    • thaawyy33432434 10 months ago

      lack of bleaching force owners to keep high standard (hygiene and vaccinations)

      If you wash your eggs before using them, you will never get salmonella.

      • 9dev 10 months ago

        But you will get rotten eggs easily.

        In thirty years in Europe, I’ve had a single incidence of salmonella infection when I handled egg shells badly while doing a Carbonara (which requires raw eggs to be spread right over the plate). This really, really isn’t a problem if you follow minimal hygiene when cooking (don’t touch food after touching shells without washing your hands in between.