Comment by saurik

Comment by saurik 6 months ago

Did you test at least +1 if not *1.5 or something? I would expect you to occasionally get blocked on disk I/O and would want some spare work sitting hot to switch in.

rwmj 6 months ago

Let me test that now. Note I only have 1 Intel machine so any results are very specific to this laptop.

  -j           time (mean ± σ)
  12 (#P+#E)   130.889 s ±  4.072 s
  13 (..+1)    135.049 s ±  2.270 s
   4 (#P)      179.845 s ±  1.783 s
   8 (#E)      141.669 s ±  3.441 s

Machine: 13th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-1365U; 2 x P-cores (4 threads), 8 x E-cores

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wtallis 6 months ago

Your processor has two P cores, and ten cores total, not twelve. The HyperThreading (SMT) does not make the two P cores into four cores. Your experiment with 4 threads will most likely result in using both P cores and two E cores, as no sane OS would double up threads on the P cores before the E cores were full with one thread each.

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- jeffbee 6 months ago
  
  I am sure rwmj was smart enough to use `taskset` to make this experiment meaningful.
  
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  rwmj 6 months ago
  
  Hehe, if only :-( However I do want to know what's best with the default Linux scheduler and just using 'make' rather than more complicated commands.
  
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- rwmj 6 months ago
  
  The hyperthreading should cover up memory latency, since the workload (compiling qemu) might not fit into L3 cache. Although I take your point that it doesn't magically create two core-equivalents.
  
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  gonzo 6 months ago
  
  “Hyperthreading” is a write pipe hack.
  If the core stalls on a write then the other thread gets run.
  
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  atq2119 6 months ago
  
  It's much more than that. It also allows one thread to make progress while the other is waiting for memory loads, or filling in instruction slots while the other thread is recovering from a branch mispredict.
  Compilers tend to do a lot of pointer chasing and branching, so it's expected that they would benefit decently from hyperthreading.
  
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