flir 12 hours ago

In the UK, the Computer Misuse Act applies if:

* There is knowledge that the intended access was unauthorised

* There is an intention to secure access to any program or data held in a computer

I imagine US law has similar definitions of unauthorized access?

`robots.txt` is the universal standard for defining what is unauthorised access for bots. No programmer could argue they aren't aware of this, and ignoring it, for me personally, is enough to show knowledge that the intended access was unauthorised. Is that enough for a court? Not a goddamn clue. Maybe we need to find out.

  • adastra22 5 hours ago

    robots.txt isn't a standard. It is a suggestion, and not legally binding AFAIK. In US law at least a bot scraping a site doesn't involve a human being and therefore the TOS do not constitute a contract. According to the Robotstxt organization itself: “There is no law stating that /robots.txt must be obeyed, nor does it constitute a binding contract between site owner and user, but having a /robots.txt can be relevant in legal cases.”

    The last part basically means the robots.txt file can be circumstantial evidence of intent, but there needs to be other factors at the heart of the case.

  • pests 12 hours ago

    > `robots.txt` is the universal standard

    Quite the assumption, you just upset a bunch of alien species.

    • flir 12 hours ago

      Dammit. Unchecked geocentric model privilege, sorry about that.

      • to11mtm 11 hours ago

        I mean it might just be a matter of the right UK person filing a case; I suppose my main understanding is UK Libel/Slander laws but if my US brain goes with that my head says the burden of proof is on non-infringement.

        (But again, I don't know UK law.)

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    • thayne 12 hours ago

      Universal within the scope of the Internet.

tepidsaucer 3 hours ago

I wind up in jail for ten years if I download an episode of iCarly; Sam Altman inhales every last byte on the internet and gets a ticker tape parade. Make it make sense.

readyplayernull 13 hours ago

Terms of use contract violation?

  • hipadev23 12 hours ago

    Robots.txt is completely irrelevant. TOU/TOS are also irrelevant unless you restrict access to only those who have agreed to terms.

  • bdangubic 13 hours ago

    good thought but zippy chance this holds up in Court