wumeow 6 months ago

Because that’s all you know! You are so myopically focused on every shitty thing that the US has ever done that you’ll believe anything that disparages the US, even when it comes from a foreign power trying to undermine you. For instance:

https://x.com/OrganizerMemes/status/1879723864936370347#m Guess what! You also have to pay for an ambulance in China!

https://x.com/Jingjing_Li/status/1880176802993434698#m Wrong. Americans spend about 12% of their income on groceries and work less than the Chinese on average.

You are not immune to propaganda.

Trasmatta 6 months ago

Gen Z will have a rude awakening if they think the Chinese government is in anyway better

  • samr71 6 months ago

    We don't think the Chinese government is any better. We trust neither government.

  • spencerflem 6 months ago

    They do not

    But also I care a lot less about the CCP because they have very little impact on my day to day

    • kjkjadksj 6 months ago

      Well aside from producing probably 95% of the goods you use day to day. Other than that, very little impact.

      • JetSpiegel 6 months ago

        Goods that could be produced in the US, but are no longer since before they were born.

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addicted 6 months ago

Imagine thinking the U.S. govt and corporate overlords are terrible because they’re banning TikTok and getting back at them by going to a Chinese app. China, the country which has a literal firewall preventing their people from getting information that isn’t vetted, bans nearly every external app because they don’t have control over it, and most ironically, never allowed TikTok, whose banning you think makes the U.S. govt terrible, in China in the first place.

It’s hilarious that all these Redpillers are going on about how they can now communicate with and learn from the Chinese people they’re meeting on Red Book without ever considering why they couldn’t meet those Chinese people on Tik Tok in the first place and coming to the conclusion that this shows that it was the U.S. govt that was bad…

Yeah, the lack of logical thinking in this one instance and your response to it only adds to the evidence that your generation is cooked.

  • seo-speedwagon 6 months ago

    Most people I’ve seen are going on about either

    1) the novelty of talking to entirely new people, which is a relative rarity since the early, heady days of MySpace when social media was new and gardens felt much less walled. For Gen Z, it might actually be a first given their average age; or

    2) how the lives of average people compare to theirs and compare to their prior notions of what they thought life was like

    These seem to go both ways btw, e.g. Chinese people being amazed that we really do need to pay for ambulance rides and that it’s not just govt propaganda. People are going where interesting things are happening, it’s plain and simple.

    • nozzlegear 6 months ago

      > These seem to go both ways btw, e.g. Chinese people being amazed that we really do need to pay for ambulance rides and that it’s not just govt propaganda. People are going where interesting things are happening, it’s plain and simple.

      Sadly, since Rednote is monitored and censored by the CCP, the novelty and depth of those 'wow, your country is really like that?' conversations is rather one-sided. You can bet if the conversation is going to paint a country in a negative light (e.g. Ambulance rides), that country probably isn't going to be China.

      • surfpel 6 months ago

        Great point! I hope all those Americans who can't afford basic necessities in this so-called 'developed country' can take solace in the existence of Chinese censorship. Now they can even take solace in the expansion of American censorship!

        In the end, what was the real revolutionary propaganda that the American establishment is afraid of? True cost of living statistics.

    • wumeow 6 months ago

      > Chinese people being amazed that we really do need to pay for ambulance rides and that it’s not just govt propaganda.

      That viral post is incorrect! Ambulance rides cost money in China! You are not immune to propaganda!

  • nozzlegear 6 months ago

    An American and a Chinese citizen are having a discussion on Rednote about freedom in their respective countries. The American proudly says:

    "In America, we have true freedom! I can stand in front of the White House and shout, 'I don’t like the President!' and nothing will happen to me."

    The Chinese citizen thoughtfully replies:

    "We have the same freedom in China. I can stand in front of Tiananmen Square and shout, 'I don’t like the American President!' and nothing will happen to me either."

    • spencerflem 6 months ago

      shouting is allowed because the powers that be know it is ineffective

      if its looking like it wont be they gun you down. see: occupy wall st., unionization efforts

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      • nozzlegear 6 months ago

        That's an interesting theory, some would call it conspiratorial, but regardless it's not quite the point.

    • bdangubic 6 months ago

      if you think you have “freedom” as an American citizen I have some Enron stock to sell to you … sooooo funny, geeeez

  • spencerflem 6 months ago

    Man, u just don't get it.

    It's spite. Obviously. The point isn't that the CCP is better.

  • keybored 6 months ago

    Three paragraphs of non-sequiturs. Yeah they are taking revenge on their own government because it’s their own government which is governing the country they live in. “But what about China” doesn’t matter since they don’t live in China and they don’t plan to move to China.

    They want to use an app. These geopolitical-ideological fault-lines doesn’t matter.