Comment by quickslowdown

Comment by quickslowdown 12 hours ago

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AfD is not the oldest, or even that old of a party. And they absolutely are neo Nazis. Not sure if you're thinking about another party, or just sympathetic to their garbage worldview, but ignorance isn't an excuse to carry water for Nazis.

wakawaka28 12 hours ago

My bad, it indeed seems to not be the oldest. But it is certainly not brand new or unpopular. Can you give me evidence that they are Nazis? I don't mean finding a few Nazis that happen to be members, I mean proof that their platform is the Nazi program. As I'm sure you are aware, the Nazi party is banned in Germany and even displaying Nazi symbology can get you in trouble there.

  • karmakurtisaani 9 hours ago

    > I don't mean finding a few Nazis that happen to be members

    Ah the few local Nazis that just happened to stumble upon the membership, while the rest of them were just fine with it. Reminds me of the good old "you're not marching with Nazis, you are a Nazi".

    • wakawaka28 8 hours ago

      It was a serious question. You are free to answer it. I'm going to assume you're full of it if you don't answer it.

      • karmakurtisaani 8 hours ago

        The serious answer is this: Nazis strive to replace democratic government with a fascist dictatorship. They wish to get rid of people they deem as their enemies. Anyone who tolerates people with ideology like this cannot be viewed as anything but the same as them. So, if your party has a few Nazis, it's all Nazis.

        • wakawaka28 7 hours ago

          >The serious answer is this: Nazis strive to replace democratic government with a fascist dictatorship.

          So how is it democracy to ban this party and harass its members again? Should Germans be concerned about other parties adopting fascist tactics to control who they can vote for?

          >They wish to get rid of people they deem as their enemies.

          So like the left, correct?

          >So, if your party has a few Nazis, it's all Nazis.

          Nobody has presented me with proof that any Nazis are in AfD, and that there are no Nazis in other parties. I don't know if AfD is open like US political parties, where one can just claim to be a member. But unless someone is at least widely known to be an open Nazi, and the party registered them as a member with full knowledge of that (or at least refused to revoke membership of a known Nazi), it's all slander.

          What is your take on the leadership of Ukraine having literal bonafide Nazis in it? Are they a concern of yours, or do you just accept what the "thought leaders" tell you?

          After certain people have called Republicans in the US "Nazis" for the past 8 years based on nothing, I'm so done with people who pull out that word for anyone they disagree with. Pony up some proof or buzz off.