Comment by stevenAthompson 10 months ago
Sometimes we aren't the boss and we don't get to see the evidence. That doesn't mean there isn't any.
Can you think of any reason a government engaged in cyberwarfare might want to ensure there was informational asymmetry? I sure can.
"We have evidence but it's secret". Hey, we've seen this one before, it's a classic!
At this point, the credibility of the trust-me-bro evidence can fall anywhere on the scale between "Iraqi WMDs" to "Imminent invasion of Ukraine", and there is just no way to know.
There are mountains of evidence that Salt Typhoon and Volt Typhoon are the CCP, and it's already been publicly illustrated that the CCP controls Tiktok. You have to have a cyber security background to understand the attribution, but a ton of it is TLP green (public). If that's something you care about just Google it.
That said, it's not your job to understand it.
We both, presumably, voted. That was our input to the process. We don't get to be consulted about every decision thereafter.
The people we voted for were briefed in private by SME's who know more about nation state attribution than we likely ever will and had access to sources they can't reveal to us. They then made this decision.
That said, if you don't trust the people elected (of either party since this was bipartisan), don't trust the experts, can't agree on the facts, and don't even agree on what constitutes a reliable source there's no point in having a conversation.
At that point you're beyond the utility of conversation as you no longer share a common frame of reference with your fellow man. There can be no argument in good faith with someone who is completely faithless.
I'm curious what you would actually accept as a reliable source? Is there any means by which you could be shown sufficient evidence? What have you put in the place the rest us keep a relatively common framework for 'reliable source'? Tiktok, maybe?
OK. Has the government indicated that there is classified evidence?