Comment by renewiltord

Comment by renewiltord 16 hours ago

5 replies

This particular thing was always in the works but we should ask the Greenlanders where they’d rather be and pay them if they choose otherwise than us. The land is too strategic and Denmark cannot hold it usefully.

impossiblefork 15 hours ago

There is no functional difference in likely effectiveness between the present EU, of which Denmark is a member state, or the present US holding Greenland against a Russian attack. The Russian attack would be smashed either way.

  • renewiltord 14 hours ago

    That seems unlikely. Peace in Europe exists because the United States threatens its absence with a fist by its heart. America had to save Europe from destroying itself once and now the US has pacified Europe by placing its troops and weapons there lest the nations turn on each other in uncivilized violence again. And then again, when they dragged their feet, the US had to blow up their gas pipelines pour encourager les autres. The continent is incapable of protecting its own shipping lanes without US support and NATO acts as a deterrent solely because the US is in it. Take it out and the Europeans will spend the majority of their time telling everyone how it's not a big deal that Ukraine will fall to Russia, and Poland, and so on.

    • impossiblefork 11 hours ago

      What you're writing has very little to do with reality.

      When we recently made agreements with the US to allow them to store some of their weapons here in case of a crisis we did this, the mutual concern was Russia. The weapons stored are presumably also of types useful for dealing with Russia.

      We Europeans have nuclear weapons as well, so there's no possibility of the US preventing any uncivilized violence-- we do in fact have very real autonomy.

      The US probably did blow up Nordstream; but this is very simply that it's easy to make the right choice when you're not paying for it, so this isn't some example of better American morality. Poland has a formal alliance with us and we would have to defend them by all means at our disposal.

      But, taking into account the sale of oil fund assets by Azerbaijan and the corresponding increase in military spending I assume more pipelines will soon have to be blown up, only this time it'll be the UK who adds its complaints to those of Germany and the other gas dependent countries. The Armenians might even have to do it themselves, rather than relying on help from others.

jajko an hour ago

Maybe we should start asking very single tribe/minority across the world if they want to be independent. We would very quickly find that current states are rather fragile conglomerates sometimes holding together by surprisingly weak forces.

I can see few parts in US for example wanting independence under certain conditions. Or US could have given kurds Kurdistan in the middle east with all that crap it caused in past 2 decades, largely stabilizing (big part of) the region. Clearly not policy US cares about much, so lets stop pretending actual wants or needs of Greenland population are anybody's concern here.