Comment by stonesthrowaway

Comment by stonesthrowaway 20 hours ago

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> TikTok is perhaps the most impressively addictive social media app ever created.

What nonsense.

> The algorithm used in the US was apparently banned in China for being too addictive.

"Apparently"? Tiktok was forced to separate itself into a chinese version and the non-chinese version by the US because we didn't want "da ccp" controlling tiktok.

> There's a certain historic symmetry with how opium was traditionally used in China, then Britain introduced stronger, more disruptive versions, forcing a stronger social reaction.

There is no historic symmetry. Unless china invades the US and forces americans to use tiktok. Like britain invaded china ( opium wars ) and forced opium on china's population.

What's with all the same propaganda in every tiktok/china related thread? The same talking points on every single thread for the past few years.

tmnvdb 20 hours ago

"Tiktok was forced to separate itself into a chinese version and the non-chinese version by the US because we didn't want "da ccp" controlling tiktok."

You're talking about Propaganda but you are spreading straight up fake news.

ByteDance initially released Douyin in China in September 2016. ByteDance introduced TikTok for users outside of China in 2017.

There was no "split", let alone one "forced by the US".

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  • stonesthrowaway 20 hours ago

    > There was no "split", let alone one "forced by the US".

    There was no split? You wrote: "ByteDance initially released Douyin in China in September 2016. ByteDance introduced TikTok for users outside of China in 2017."

    You say there was no split while explicitly proving that there was split? You're not that stupid are you?

    Why do you think "tiktok" was created in 2017 when bytedance already had douyin( aka tiktok ) in 2016?

    Why is there a "tiktok" for china and a "tiktok" for everyone else? Because the "tiktok in china ( duoyin ) was influenced by the chinese government and to appease the US, bytedance branched off tiktok from "douyin".

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    • tmnvdb 19 hours ago

      I doesn't have anything to do with "appeasing" the US, the Chinese version is heavily filtered and tilted towards CPP prefered activities and worldview, such a platform would never work on the international market and they know it.

      And it obviously is not a split if they are seperate apps from the beginning. Why do you lie so much btw?

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      • stonesthrowaway 19 hours ago

        > I doesn't have anything to do with "appeasing" the US

        No. It had everything to do with it. How can you say that when tiktok is getting banned? Even after bytedance bent over backwards to appease the US?

        > the Chinese version is heavily filtered and tilted towards CPP prefered activities and worldview, such a platform would never work on the international market and they know it.

        Sure. But nothing prevents tiktok from catering their app to other nations differently. You do realize that most nations get different versions of tiktok, facebook, youtube, etc right?

        > And it obviously is not a split if they are seperate apps from the beginning.

        But they weren't separate apps from the beginning. Your fellow bot/propagandists wrote: "ByteDance initially released Douyin in China in September 2016. ByteDance introduced TikTok for users outside of China in 2017."

        If someone is born in 2016 and another person is born in 2017 are born in the same year? Are they the same person?

        > Why do you lie so much btw?

        Everyone can read this thread and see that you are lying. Not me.

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JumpCrisscross 20 hours ago

> Tiktok was forced to separate itself into a chinese version and the non-chinese version by the US because we didn't want "da ccp" controlling tiktok

No. TikTok was forced to put its data on American servers [1].

Douyin was launched in 2016 as musical.ly, and is unrelated to U.S. pressure. (EDIT: Douyin was launched in 2016, TikTok in 2017. Musical.ly was acquired in 2017 and merged into/basically became TikTok. TikTok has never been in China.)

[1] https://www.reuters.com/technology/tiktok-moves-us-user-data...

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hombre_fatal 20 hours ago

What viewpoint is your use of “da ccp” supposed to disparage?

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  • whateveracct 19 hours ago

    I think people (Americans) who view China as a geopolitical rival/enemy of the United States?

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herval 20 hours ago

how did Britain force the Chinese population to consume Opium?

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  • se4u 20 hours ago

    I don't know if you are just ignorant about history and unwilling to Google, or if you are making the point that of course British did not force feed opium to the people.

    What is very well established is that the british fought a war , literally called the opium war by Western historians themselves with the main objective of keeping their opium distribution into China open after the emperor banned it

    Their action was akin to if some majority owner of Purdue pharma invades US and forces US government to "keep the oxy market open" while letting "people make their own decision".

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    • talldatethrow 19 hours ago

      Tbh, what you describe sounds nothing like forcing opium on a people. If mexico invaded and started making meth in the US, or started sending even more meth into the US than they do now by totally taking over the border, I would not begin taking meth.

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  • adolph 19 hours ago

      >> Like britain invaded china ( opium wars ) and forced opium on china's population.

  > how did Britain force the Chinese population to consume Opium?
    The Chinese government of the time had banned opium and the British worked to bypass that, eventually with governmental force.
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    • herval 19 hours ago

      I'm not saying Britain didn't do something _against the will of the goverment_. I'm just questioning OP's nonsense that individuals were forced to consume Opium vs not forced to consume TikTok - in both cases, clearly nobody was forced. And in both cases, it's products made to be addictive.

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