smatija 2 months ago

https://lichess.org is an excellent open source chess server with plenty of learning resources for pure beginners.

As you progress learning resources sadly get more and more expensive indeed. Not to mention the cost of tournaments (travel and accomodation expenses add up very quickly).

  • xiphias2 2 months ago

    For me as a hobbyist it's so hard to know what to learn and even to know what level the teacher should be.

    I'm at 1200 in lichess, tried for example multiple ,,beginner friendly'' openings, like London / Kings Indian defense, but I realized that as four knights opening is the most natural for me, I should focus on the Italian, which is the closest to my natural style of play.

    Also there are tactics practice, books, videos, but I get discourage when I see how fast some people are advancing (especially as I'm in my 40s).

    • blharr 2 months ago

      The biggest thing is to not focus too much on openings. Past 4 or so moves everything can be mixed up and tactics are more important.

      You're at the level where you're probably not hanging all your pieces or hanging mate-in-one too commonly. So learn endgames. You can win/draw like 75% of the time from even being down a piece or two at your level if you can play the endgame quickly and accurately.

      Then, refine the middlegame, learning how to get the advantage. Doing puzzles for dozens of hours will teach you how to recognize a lot of basic tactics that can win early.

      But only once you've scraped the barrel with the middlegame would I start focusing strongly on openings.

      • xiphias2 2 months ago

        Thanks, great advices, I will follow them.

        Yes, I'm through the trivial things that's why I feel that I've got stuck.

        Probably I spent too much time playing and not enough practicing.

        What you write makes a lot of sense, I know the very basics of end game play, but not on my level for example, and just playing against people doesn't give me the consistency I need to get better faster.

        The same with tactics, I can spend many hours playing with other people and I'm getting better with tactics, but again it's not enough to get consistent with pattern recognition.

  • gunian 2 months ago

    I didn't mean me I am one of the privileged kids after all I am posting on HN :) just musing out loud digitally about all the people that dont't have access to that for various reasons or the time to devote to it but such is the way of the world

    • robertlagrant 2 months ago

      Of all the games, chess is a pretty well-distributed one. Maybe not quite as cheap to set up as football, but it's pretty close. You can create a board and pieces out of two sheets of paper and a pen.

      Learning it is tougher of course!

rco8786 2 months ago

I am curious why you connected this to child poverty.

Are there things that you wish poor children had less of, with more stressors from poverty?

  • jjmarr 2 months ago

    presumably it's because the stressors of poverty forces one to think in the short-term, while Chess incentivizes long-term strategy.

    If you learn not to take a pawn because 5 moves later you'll lose a bishop, maybe you won't take on credit card debt when 5 months later you owe 10% more in interest.

    • rco8786 2 months ago

      It also incentivizes taking as much material as you can right away to gain an advantage. It’s all positional and contextual. Not sure you can conclude that there’s any concrete life lesson in here.

    • gunian 2 months ago

      lol credit cards that's a million privilege steps ahead most children in the world do not have two hours to spend on their own education much less chess they work etc