Comment by herbst

> Europe is an ally and under US govt defense umbrella

That's an absolute illusion. And definitely absolutely wrong to call it ally. Most govs don't want to have anything to do with trump, musk and all this bullshit.

Most European countries will basically make no deals or anything for 4 years just like we did last time.

There is a literal war thread open of trump claiming to invade parts of Europe. We are pissed. Not allies