Comment by numpy-thagoras

Comment by numpy-thagoras 3 days ago

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Voodoo worship of math? I am getting a bit tired of that sentiment, especially around string theory.

Math is all you've got to work with, we wouldn't have modern day physics without math.

The issue is that people think they can find some kind of magic shortcut by playing around with abstractions without reference to or grounding in physical observables. That's not a math problem, that's a psychology problem.

xigency 3 days ago

If you're going to say that you need to study math exclusively for many years to understand your formulas then you are not using abstraction well.

  • numpy-thagoras 17 hours ago

    I don't think that's what I would say, but if that's what you are anticipating, then I don't think you have a very good take, either. I don't even think we'd resolve our problems with physics if everyone were a mathematician first. However, it will always take many years of training to understand some of the major equations to a sufficient degree.

    Once again, my point is that people are trying to take shortcuts with abstractions that are not grounded in reality. That is a matter of self-discipline, of priorities, of putting the cart before the horse. Consider string theories: we have worked out so many ways in which strings can behave, etc. with so many possibilities and permutations. However, we never proved the ground reality for strings, we just ran with a bunch of assumptions and then parameterized them, went meta a bunch of times, and called that a research program.

    All of that mathematical sophistication and model-building could have went to, e.g. perfecting QCD, or even in other directions.