Comment by stonesthrowaway
Comment by stonesthrowaway 4 days ago
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Comment by stonesthrowaway 4 days ago
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It requires cooperating with domestic Chinese censorship and providing personal details/actions of users by default to the Chinese government to an extent that Western companies generally aren't okay with.
However, this is all a deflection, because blocking a company from operating as a business within China is not the same thing as banning them by blocking all access to their foreign websites/apps.
If China didn't want Wikipedia operating fully within China as a nonprofit, but you could still access foreign countries'/languages' Wikipedias, I wouldn't necessarily describe Wikipedia as "banned in China". I'd maybe describe it as a partial ban at most.
> tiktok goes out of its way to abide by US laws and still were banned
I'm guessing they decided there was no effective legislation Tiktok couldn't weasel around via loopholes, deception, or some combination of the two.
What legislation are you talking about? They've been extremely transparent about their business through this whole process. They've been asked to do things no other companies are asked to do and they still abide
I'm not a fan of TikTok but its silly not to see the bias here
Indeed, there's much bias here in favor of the PRC for some reason.
The PRC bans tons of US websites and apps all the time, much more stringently than the US is doing, but people keep drawing these false equivalences regardless.
Unlike China's typical banning policy, the US isn't implementing a full website block, which means the app would continue to work for a while, and Americans would still be able to get to the website or get to the app if it's hosted on foreign servers. I see nothing about blocking Americans from getting to the content, only from hosting the content.
In contrast, China outright blocks its residents from even being able to get to Google or Facebook or the New York Times, period, even if they're hosted in another country. It's a full ban.
So the US is implementing a weaker ban with one website even as China has blocked thousands, but people are still freaking out.
> refuse to abide by chinese laws
Honest question: what laws?
Never ever say anything bad about The Glorious Leader, of course.
More misinformation from the PRC defense squad!
They are, in fact, banned. It's not just that they can't operate like a normal business within China, you can't even reach the foreign servers from within China...because they're banned.
If a new social media network opens in Denmark, it might not operate in the US yet -- which means US laws wouldn't even be applicable -- but I could still reach it from the US without needing a VPN, because it wouldn't be banned either. Maybe it wouldn't be useful for me as an American yet, but I could still get to the website, because the US government isn't stopping me.
Many popular US websites are actually banned in China, whether you want to admit it or not.
I am genuine interested in details why and how US media didnt abide to China laws?