my kid goes to private school. expelled students by grade:
1st: 2
2nd: 4
3rd: 4
4th: 3
5th: 5
6th: 3 (so far)
why am I saying this? we pay tens of thousands of dollars per year for having access to this kind of environment. if there is a kid who is fucking up everyone else, the “everyone else” should not have to suffer through it. I would pay double what I pay now for this priviledge for my kid. so yes, 100%, more expelling and more discipline is needed
I am not sure I am following what you are saying here? what kind of failure?
there is a lot of parents that have money to pay for private education for their kids and there is also a lot of those kids that are fuckups.
if you mean failure of the parents - you are 100% - complete failure of the parents.
The crazy thing is, the American populace is already paying ~15k per student for public education. Why are they not expelling kids who are fucking up that environment?
I'm of the opinion that parents are largely to blame for all this stuff. School is viewed as daycare and education not really prioritized by a large part of our population. Teacher's get all the blame and that's not right at all.
I'm for things that entails negative consequences for the parents prior to the kid being pigeon holed as a deplorable or unfitting for academic environments. Sending them home is one way to make the parents suffer. But before that, let's group them together and then find ways to level them up as a cohort. Everyone suffers when the class has a huge standard deviation of skills/knowledge/enthusiasm/engagement/support/etc.
I could not agree more with everything you said - it is really on parents largely. if my kid was one causing trouble in school I would 100% consider this my failure. and your idea about sending them home is for sure good in my book - of course this may create additional shitstorm on the kids if the parents are shitty but it is definitely one way I think makes sense to start with.
let's group them together and then find ways to level them up as a cohort I also agree with this but am thinking there has to be time limits etc... everyone should be given a 2nd chance and for kids I think everyone should be given 10th chance :) but both parents and kids have to understand that there are consequences and there are time limits to patience for behaviour correction.
Isn’t that an absurd indictment of your school? If my (converted) $30k/year school had to expel even a single student every year that would be a massive failure in my eyes.