Comment by andrewla

Comment by andrewla 4 days ago

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> Social networking platforms are among the most effective tools for mass influence, second only to religion.

There is no evidence for this belief. Really for either religion or for "social networking platforms".

You could maybe make the claim that this is true in terms of reach, but the implication here is that "these mediums can be used deliberately to influence people in a chosen direction", and this is just kind of silly. It's fun to imagine that some nefarious powers (or benificent powers) have some magical insight into how to make people believe things but this just isn't true and I think intuitively we all understand that.

To make the case that this is true you would have to do an examination of all attempts to spread messages, not just look at successful cases where messages catch on. Nobody has the power to do this on demand through some principled approach, or else they would be emperor of the world.

drawkward 4 days ago

I don't recall legacy media spreading tourettes-like tics...

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9553600/

  • andrewla 4 days ago

    Are you implying that this was a deliberate attempt by an agent to create tourettes-like tics? Are you also asserting that this hypothetical boogieman can do similar attacks on demand because of their understanding of social contagion [1]?

    The idea of social networking (or other broadcast or widely disseminated media) being able to influence beliefs or behavior is kind of inarguable. In specific cases there might be causal confusion - whether the media was effective because of existing trends or piggybacked on other phenomena vs. creating the effect directly. But this is a far cry from claiming that it can be deliberately weaponized, or that it is more effective for this purpose than other means of information dissemination.

    [1] Social contagion, a phenomenon that long predates the internet

    • drawkward 4 days ago

      I am simply providing evidence for the claim

      >Social networking platforms are among the most effective tools for mass influence

      • andrewla 4 days ago

        To be a tool it has to be able to be directed towards an end.

        Hurricanes are effective for coastal property destruction, but they can't be used as a tool