Comment by palata

Comment by palata 4 days ago

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So you would say for sure that the NSA has definitely never been used to give advantages to US companies? I could totally imagine Boeing receiving information in order to win a contract against Airbus.

After all, we know for a fact that the US have been spying on European politicians.

infecto 4 days ago

You are making up stories now. We have proven news article of flagrant corporate espionage happening from Chinese actors. We know that CCP upper leadership holds seats at the major mainland corporations. Will I say never has US intelligence participated in corporate espionage? There are documented cases of the US meddling but as far as we have evidence, not at the level of Chinese interference. So nope, I won't say for sure but I am also not fabricating stories.

  • palata 4 days ago

    Sorry I don't follow. What did I make up? That I don't believe that the US are "always fair" either? That I don't need to believe it, because it has been documented many times?

    > We know that CCP upper leadership holds seats at the major mainland corporations.

    And who holds seats/has major influence in the US government?

    • infecto 4 days ago

      Sorry I am not sure what 1) your point is or 2) what you are arguing. This thread is simply DJI poses a real national security threat as there has been demonstrable issues in recent history.

      • palata 4 days ago

        Depends on where you start the thread. Before your comment, this thread was simply "this is US protectionism and not really national security".

        After your first comment, this thread was "the USA are an information security risk".

        My point is that of course, from the US point of view, China abusing its power is worse than the US abusing their power. But if you take a step back... why should a European citizen consider that what China is doing is worse than what the US are doing?

        It has been proven that the US have been targeting European politicians with spying. It has been proven that the NSA was collecting private information about just everything they could (including US citizen BTW). The richest people on Earth control the biggest tech companies on Earth and are getting closer to the US president every day. Some of those people are actively trying to influence politics in Europe (e.g. promoting neo-nazis in Germany, I don't know if you understand what it means there). The US president is talking about invading Greenland, Panama etc. And you talk about links between the Chinese government and Chinese companies?

        If TikTok is a strong national security risk for the US, then Facebook, Google, Amazon, Apple are all strong security risks for Europe. But what would the US say if Europe banned those companies? Probably more "it's a free market, it's democracy, it's capitalism, you can't do that!" than "fair enough, we do it too, and China does it too", right?

        That's where I find it ironic. The US promote free market when it's about having their companies in other countries. But when the roles are inverted, then the US behave a lot more like China than like Europe (by banning companies), don't they?