Comment by nozzlegear

Comment by nozzlegear 3 days ago

27 replies

Whoa, hold on. RFK may be right about this one thing in the same way a broken clock happens to occasionally be right, but let's not rush to take away his nutcase title. He has some truly messed up opinions about a variety of topics.

legitster 3 days ago

The dude literally got a brainworm from eating roadkill.

The idea that people want to take him seriously as a food safety crusader is wild.

  • blindriver 3 days ago

    The idea that he got brainworm from roadkill is literally a lie.

    • legitster 3 days ago

      I'm being flip, but it's not a lie. He doesn't know where the brainworm came from, and it was revealed later that he has been eating roadkill meat his whole life.

      Exotic parasites is a known risk when eating roadkill. It's not a difficult connection to make.

      • blindriver 3 days ago

        More lies. He didn't eat roadkill. You need to stop.

        https://apnews.com/article/rfk-new-york-ballot-access-lawsui...

        Speaking to reporters in a hallway after court ended Wednesday, Kennedy was asked whether he picked up other roadkill.

        “I’ve been picking up roadkill my whole life. I have a freezer full of it,” he said, eliciting laughter.

        Kennedy campaign spokesperson Stefanie Spear later said by text that he wasn’t joking. She said that’s how Kennedy — a falconer who trains ravens — feeds his birds. She added that he no longer has the 21 cubic foot (0.59 cubic meter) refrigerator, which had been in New York’s Westchester County suburbs.

  • solarpunk 3 days ago

    He's not even really a food safety crusader, he's just a vocal proponent of the "whole foods movement". Other than that, he's a former heroin addict Kennedy dynasty failson.

Dig1t 3 days ago

>truly messed up opinions about a variety of topics.

I would actually really like to hear what the messed up opinions are, when I've watched interviews with him they've seemed pretty reasonable. He cites sources for basically all the claims he makes.

  • nozzlegear 3 days ago

    I hesitate to dive into this because I'm really not interested in arguing the nuances of RFK with people on the internet (not you, others). RFK Jr. has a long history of controversial statements regarding COVID, COVID vaccines and being anti-vaccine, or vaccine-skeptical as his supporters like to frame him.

    For me, one of his most controversial statements in recent memory had to be during a press conference he gave in 2023 when he stated that COVID might have been "ethnically targeted" to "attack Caucasians and Black people" and that "the people who are most immune are Ashkenazi Jews and Chinese."

    He tried to defend the statement by citing scientific studies, which is a habit of his that his supporters admire about him. However, actual experts in the field pointed out that his interpretation of the studies was flawed and there was no credible evidence to support the idea that COVID was engineered or had evolved to target or spare certain groups.

    Sources:

    1. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/robert-f-kennedy-jr-false-claim...

    2. https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2023/jul/19/robert-f-k...

    3. https://nypost.com/2024/11/15/media/jake-tapper-rips-rfk-jr-...

    • Dig1t 3 days ago

      https://oversight.house.gov/release/final-report-covid-selec...

      >COVID-19 ORIGIN: COVID-19 most likely emerged from a laboratory in Wuhan, China.

      >Wuhan is home to China’s foremost SARS research lab, which has a history of conducting gain-of-function research

      So the US government has concluded that the virus almost certainly came from a lab conducting gain of function research.

      What is gain of function? Making a virus more lethal.

      RFKs words:

      >There is an argument that it is ethnically targeted. COVID-19 attacks certain races disproportionately

      It DOES impact some races more than others.

      This is a completely plausible theory. I don’t understand why it’s a crazy idea at all.

      Why wouldn’t a country trying to make a virus more lethal also try to curve its lethality away from its own people?

      • nozzlegear 3 days ago

        Yeah, this shit is why I was hesitant to dive into the topic. You've made several leaps of logic here that I don't feel like debunking or discussing further, and I'll note that you've conveniently forgotten to defend the most controversial part of his statement – that the engineered virus supposedly curves its lethality away from Ashkenazi Jews as well, which would imply that that group also had something to do with its manufacture.

        • Dig1t 3 days ago

          It’s entirely possible that it’s a coincidence, groups of people share genes in common. It’s actually rather unlikely that a gene, especially one that seems to confer some resistance to the effects of a virus, would exist for only one group of people in the entire world.

          I would love to hear about my leaps in logic honestly.

          Nobody is saying that it was definitely ethnically targeted, but it IS plausible. Just because the ethnicity involved makes you uncomfortable doesn’t mean that it’s not possible.

          Your comment suggests it’s an outrageous notion, but if that’s true then just give a decent argument why it’s actually outrageous.

          Chinese leadership have specifically mentioned ethnically targeted bio weapons:

          https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_bioweapon

          >In 2017, a textbook published by the People's Liberation Army National Defence University called the Science of Military Strategy debuted the potential for biological warfare to include "specific ethnic genetic attacks."[10][11] The same year, former People's Liberation Army general Zhang Shibo authored a book that concluded that "modern biotechnology development is gradually showing strong signs characteristic of an offensive capability," including "specific ethnic genetic attacks" (特定种族基因攻击).[10] In 2020, a professor at the same PLA university spoke of the "huge war effectiveness" of a "targeted attack that destroys a race, or a specific group of people."

alchemist1e9 3 days ago

Like what? are you sure you understand his opinions?

Many who finally talk to him directly who thought like you do find out maybe not so crazy.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2025/01/14/los_angel...

  • HeatrayEnjoyer 3 days ago

    RFK Jr is not a good person, is not a smart person, and we should not attempt to whitewash or legitimize him. He has a complex early life, but his actions today are his own choices.

    https://www.iheart.com/podcast/105-behind-the-bastards-29236...

    • alchemist1e9 3 days ago

      LLM summary for your damning information:

      Based on the provided transcript, the accusations and criticisms against RFK Jr. focus primarily on: 1. Allegations of Sexual Assault: • Multiple allegations have been reported, including by Vanity Fair. His response to these allegations has been a mixture of acknowledgment and apologizing directly to at least one accuser. 2. Acknowledgment of Past Wrongdoings: • RFK Jr. himself has admitted to having a problematic past, described as “skeletons in the closet,” though these have not been exhaustively detailed in the transcript. 3. Entitlement and Privilege: • Growing up as part of the Kennedy dynasty, RFK Jr. is characterized as having displayed behaviors shaped by immense privilege and a sense of entitlement, including unruly and eccentric conduct during his youth. 4. Controversial Political Views: • While not explicitly detailed in this transcript, RFK Jr.’s political stances (e.g., vaccine skepticism and other fringe views) have been controversial and polarizing, drawing criticism from various quarters.

      There is no mention in the transcript of more serious accusations, such as criminal activity beyond the sexual assault allegations, nor evidence of deeper scandals. However, the discussion also suggests that there may be more allegations or controversies not covered explicitly in the transcript.

  • yakz 3 days ago

    I fail to see how your link supports your questioning or your statement, could you explain it? It looks like it's just the opinion of the owner of the Los Angeles Times, a person that some might feel is heavily biased.

    • alchemist1e9 3 days ago

      I’ll quote from another comment in this thread:

      > LA Times owner Dr. Patrick Soon-Shiong is a doctor and transplant surgeon and invented drugs to fight pancreatic and other forms of cancer. He ACTUALLY talked to RFK Jr. and after listening to him talk and what he had to say instead of relying on mainstream media propaganda, he changed his opinion on him.

  • jjeaff 3 days ago

    RFK Jr has frequently and publicly claimed that the side effects and dangers of most all vaccines are worse than the diseases they prevent. There is no legitimate data that even suggests that is true. You can get into the minutia of potential dangers and health effects of vaccines all you want. But when you look at the actual outcomes, like with COVID, the public is far, far better off having taken them and RFK's fear mongering endangers the public health.

blindriver 3 days ago

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  • HeatrayEnjoyer 3 days ago

    Dr Oz is a licensed doctor as well. You need to do better than "but but the mainstream media!!!!1"

    • Dig1t 3 days ago

      Yeah we are not talking about Dr Oz, he has nothing to do with the conversation about food dyes or RFK's policy ideas.

    • blindriver 3 days ago

      Whataboutism isn't an actual defense. I don't know who Dr. Oz is and it has nothing to do with the issue above.

  • rad_gruchalski 3 days ago

    They’re all talking rubbish. Trump said he will finish the war in UA within 24 hours. They are just talking stuff angry people swallow like pelicans.

    You have elected a bunch of ego driven loonies. Just accept it and hopefully you still get to vote in four years time. What a great time for this planet.

  • rcpt 3 days ago

    > LA Times owner Dr. Patrick Soon-Shiong

    Billionaire Dr. Patrick Soon-Shiong who prevented the LA Times staff from publishing their endorsement of Kamala Harris?

  • Dig1t 3 days ago

    I agree, the news coverage of what he says vs what he actually says in interviews is very different.