Comment by onlyrealcuzzo

Comment by onlyrealcuzzo 4 days ago

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Free Speech != freedom to do literally anything.

We don't even have free speech, btw.

You can't yell FIRE in crowded rooms with impunity, you can't say untrue things about people that harm their businesses or put their lives in danger with impunity, etc.

The idea that our politicians should not be allowed to ban something being owned by a foreign company (especially when our companies aren't allowed to operate in said country, especially when we don't exactly have friendly relations with said country) - is, IMO, absurd.

feyman_r 4 days ago

To the post indicating shouting fire is legal - I believe the parent’s intent is to indicate there are consequences to it. From the article —

>> The act of shouting "fire" when there are no reasonable grounds for believing one exists is not in itself a crime, and nor would it be rendered a crime merely by having been carried out inside a theatre, crowded or otherwise. However, if it causes a stampede and someone is killed as a result, then the act could amount to a crime, such as involuntary manslaughter, assuming the other elements of that crime are made out.

gjsman-1000 4 days ago
  • onlyrealcuzzo 4 days ago

    It is SOMETIMES legal, which means that it is in the other times illegal.

    • gjsman-1000 4 days ago

      Not necessarily that either. You’ll only possibly receive a charge if your conduct was intentionally misleading with purpose to harm. Yelling “fire” in a theater while in a Gen Z crowd (“this is fire”) or while listening to Metallica (“Fight fire with fire”) isn’t going to get a charge either, even if it possibly causes a stampede. The crime therefore could be accomplished with far more alternative words than just “fire.”

      The point is: Legal experts unanimously agree this analogy is terrible and should never be used. The Supreme Court also thought so, completely overturning the case it originated from just several years later.