Comment by lvl155

Comment by lvl155 4 days ago

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Why doesn’t China simply open up for domestic competition? What are they afraid of? It’s a serious question. Are they that much afraid of their consumers switching to Western products? I frankly think it’s overblown. Chinese people will simply stick with homegrown products at this point. It’s way too entrenched for anyone to enter their market and succeed. I think they have made enough progress to open up their markets and they have so much to lose by growing anti-sino sentiments abroad all because they didn’t want US tech monopolies to compete in their home turf. Maybe 10 years ago it made sense but Chinese tech companies can compete on merits at this point. They have the ecosystem to compete without govt protection.

stonesthrowaway 4 days ago

> Why doesn’t China simply open up for domestic competition?

China does allow competition. It's just that google, facebook, etc chose not to follow chinese laws.

> they have so much to lose by growing anti-sino sentiments abroad all because they didn’t want US tech monopolies to compete in their home turf

Funny how microsoft, apple, tesla, etc are competing in china?

You are just parroting stale propaganda.

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  • richwater 4 days ago

    > China does allow competition. It's just that google, facebook, etc chose not to follow chinese laws.

    HAHA, thanks for giving me a good laugh

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    • stonesthrowaway 4 days ago

      Typical pathetic response from a silly political activist. There are tons of american companies operating in china. I listed few of the biggest. Google used to operate in china. But when china tighten their laws, google chose not to follow them and left. Probably because google, like facebook, are state sponsored propaganda outfits. Unlike tiktok...

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      • theultdev 4 days ago

        Really skipped over expanding on the CCP laws that Google chose not follow, didn't ya?

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wavemode 4 days ago

You're assuming it's about economics, but it has almost nothing to do with that. Foreign companies like Ford and GM can and do sell in China.

The reason China restricts foreign internet companies specifically, is because the government lacks control over what information is shared on such apps. China is a dictatorship where free speech is considered dangerous.

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  • lvl155 4 days ago

    And that’s my point really. US tech companies have all kowtowed to CCP for the past two decades trying to gain access to the second largest economy.

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    • _fat_santa 4 days ago

      They did, largely what China did is make any companies that want to do business in China partner with a local company. From there what happened in many cases is the foreign company had their IP stolen and then shut out of the market.

      China doesn't want western companies operating in China, they want western IP owned by Chinese companies operating there. That's why so many companies have pulled out of that market.

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ajross 4 days ago

> What are they afraid of?

Definitely not the consumption of foreign products.

The PRC remains a totalitarian government which built itself on an environment where they exert total control over public communication. There are long lists of topics that you simply cannot cover, analyze, talk about or even discuss privately via internet media in China. There's no way to do that if those discussions happen on Snapchat via a data center in Oregon.

Does the CCP need to do that? It's a reasonable question with answers more complicated than I'll be able to offer. But for sure they want (desperately) to do it. Thus, no foreign media in China.

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gmm1990 4 days ago

Pretty sure Google was allowed but decided to pull out (maybe due to censorship demands from China) not sure about facebook.

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  • RobotToaster 4 days ago

    Facebook was allowed until 2009, it was blocked because it was allegedly used by ETIM to organise the 2009 Urumqi riots, and facebook refused to cooperate with the Chinese police.

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