Comment by mytailorisrich

Comment by mytailorisrich 4 days ago

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> they’ll be willing to let China have the islands now too

The islands are Chinese. The US back Taiwan as an anti-communist and anti-China (divide and conquer) tactic, including because its location. If the communists had lost the civil war, the mainland and Taiwan would all have remained under ROC control and it would have been interesting to see what the US would have come up with, instead (academic and thought experiment but interesting to imagine nonetheless).

In Ukraine the US don't want to be dragged in a war against Russia and things have played well for them so far (really the US are the only winners so far).

throwaway494932 4 days ago

> The islands are Chinese.

"In June 2008, a TVBS poll found that 68% of the respondents identify themselves as "Taiwanese" while 18% would call themselves "Chinese".[33] In 2015, a poll conducted by the Taiwan Braintrust showed that about 90 percent of the population would identify themselves as Taiwanese rather than Chinese.[34]" [1]

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiwanese_people

  • mytailorisrich 4 days ago

    That is quite irrelevant in addition to being misleading.

    • rob74 4 days ago

      The same way as Ukrainians wanting to live in an independent country is irrelevant?

      • suraci 4 days ago

        I like thought experiment.

        let's think

        1. CCP took over California by force 2. CCP killed everyone who resists 3. CCP leaved, but built a puppet regime 4. The puppet regime rewrite schoolbook, taught everyone they're not American 5. 100 years later, a poll found that 68% of the respondents identify themselves as Californians

        I must admit this is a bad thought experiment because Americans lives in a stolen land, it's not same as Taiwan

      • mytailorisrich 4 days ago

        Change of subject? Russia's main aim in Ukraine was/is regime change ('main' because they obviously do want to annex the Donbas), a bit like what happened in Iraq in 2003...

        I did not expect to be able to seriously discuss geopolitics here, TBH, it never works and it is never possible to dig deeper. Case in point...

        • rob74 4 days ago

          Actually I agree with you - if Russia's main aim in Ukraine was changing the regime, that would have turned Ukraine into something like Belarus, which I don't really consider independent...