Comment by pprotas

Comment by pprotas 4 days ago

15 replies

I would love to have an e-reader that allows me to switch between text and audio at the press of a button. Imagine reading your book on the couch and then switching into audio mode while doing the dishes seamlessly, by connecting bluetooth headphones.

InsideOutSanta 4 days ago

Kindles used to provide this feature, but publishers and/or the Authors Guild stopped it, because audio rights and text rights are handled differently. In other words, when Amazon sells you a text book, it does not have the right to then also do TTS on that text and let you listen to it.

There's some contemporary discussion of what happened here: https://tidbits.com/2009/03/02/why-the-kindle-2-should-speak...

I think there is still integration with Audible, though. If you buy a book on the Kindle and on Audible, the position will sync, and you can switch between listening and reading without losing your place in the book.

  • albert_e 4 days ago

    Yes the feature is called WhisperSync -- I used it many years ago and it was pretty good.

    I tried it while on a treadmill so it allowed me to follow the book with more focus without sacrificing much else.

    • thfuran 4 days ago

      Isn't whisper sync the current version that relies on owning both the ebook and audiobook?

  • hamzakc 4 days ago

    I am not sure if this still works, but 2-3 years ago I listened to a kindle book that I bought through my Echo show device. It was pretty good. I listened to it while I was cooking. It even allowed you to carry on where you left off. But I did notice that a few pages were skipped as I had read the book before. I have since packed away my echo show so I can't verify if they have removed this feature or not.

  • Brybry 4 days ago

    I used that TTS feature semi-regularly on a Kindle 2.

    It wasn't a good experience but it was nice to be able to keep 'reading' a book while I was exercising.

    It worked for me for over a decade, until I broke the device. I don't know if I never updated the firmware or if the fact I used Calibre to convert books bypassed the feature gate.

dsign 4 days ago

It is a supported feature in the epub 3.0 standard. It's possible to distribute an epub with audio, and have the audio sync to the HTML elements that form the ebook's text. And there is an e-reader that actually supports this feature, I can't remember which one now but it should be possible to find it with Google.

It's more of an open problem how to create those epubs. I have some code that can do it using Elevenlabs audio, but I imagine it way harder to have something similar for a human narrator.... who's going to do the sync? Maybe we need a sync AI.

freefaler 4 days ago

You can do it easily with non-DRM books (or DRM stripped books):

For Android:

- Moon+ reader pro - some paid high-quality TTS voices (like Acapella)

For iOS:

- Kybook reader and internal iOS voices (no external TTS voices for the walled garden)

This works well enough to listen to a book while you walk and when you get back home read on the WC from the place you stopped.

Additionally if you buy a tablet or an android ebook reader, you install the app there an you can continue on your bigger/better device seamlessly.

Whisper-sync for the masses! Ahoy...

  • basedrum 4 days ago

    But you need an android phone, and can't use a kobo or similar wink reader?

    • freefaler 4 days ago

      for ios you use Kybook on your iphone and your ipad. It syncs positions between the devices. When you go for a walk, opens Kybook, start TTS. When back home, open your tablet, you'll see the page TTS has stopped reading to.

      • figers 3 days ago

        How does this compare to using Apple's iBook or Kindle reader app and then the iPhone's built in text to voice (the female British voice is pretty good).

monkeydust 4 days ago

Literally started doing that this week with Amazon Audible. I gave in an started the three month 99c trial and downloaded the app.

What surprised me a good way was my Kindle app was aware of this and asked if I wanted to download the audible version of the current book I am reading.

Been listening on the way to work and then reading on the way back. Enjoying it so far.

  • mmahemoff 4 days ago

    Some Kindke books also have a checkbox to add the audio (for a fee) when you buy it. Sometimes I’ve seen books discounted to e.g. £0.99, but adding the audio might be £5.99. The upsell seems to be a good hack for adding some revenue when there’s a deep discount being used to drive interest.

llamaimperative 4 days ago

Boox Ultra Tab whatever the fuck (their product naming sucks) + Readwise Reader = amazing for this

Not quite seamless but it works. It has a cursor that follows the words as they’re spoken to, which allows you to read and hear (“immersive reading”) which I find to be extremely helpful for maintaining focus.

leobg 2 days ago

iOS Voice Dream Reader. First app I install on a new iPhone since 2010 I believe. I will even cut and scan physical books just so I can read them in the app. The story of the guy who made it is also interesting!