Comment by medhir

Comment by medhir 4 days ago

I relate to this a lot. Someone is referring to this take as “bullshit” contrasting the experience of the average worker to a software engineer.

I’d argue the average worker is in the position they’re in because of a whole chain of people that couldn’t be bothered to care.

Our government has let go of its principles, because no one in charge could be bothered to give a fuck. There’s a certain nihilism to life in the US in 2025 that has been enabled entirely by people not speaking up.

I’m myself guilty of staying on the sidelines. Starting to realize that perhaps I need to be louder, because no one else is speaking up and that “giving a fuck” is something that must be led by example.

johnnyanmac 3 days ago

>Our government has let go of its principles, because no one in charge could be bothered to give a fuck.

Oh they care... about money. We're being sold out but keep re-electing the same perpetrators simply because "it's better than the other person".

Meanwhile a third of our country is a mix of "not caring" or legitmately unable to keep dates in mind and find a poll booth to vote. Who knows how things would change if voting was compulsory, as was receiving a ballot in the mail.

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paulcole 4 days ago

> I’d argue the average worker is in the position they’re in because of a whole chain of people that couldn’t be bothered to care.

This is a lame excuse. My caring is a choice I make. I can choose to care whether you care or not. I make the choice for myself.

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lazide 4 days ago

Just wait until you try to speak up and get destroyed. Why do you think folks don’t speak up?

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medhir 4 days ago

so… the fear of speaking up should lead to staying silent? what exactly are you advocating for here

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- johnnyanmac 3 days ago
  
  It's human nature. You don't put your hand into a fire because early in your childhood, you learned the consequences of those actions.
  >what exactly are you advocating for here
  Nothing really. Bad people do bad things to keep good people down. figure out how to prevent that.
  
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- lazide 3 days ago
  
  I’m not advocating for anything. I’m pointing out the cause of the effect you’re noting.
  Concretely, I suspect it’s a side effect of ‘how dare they’ type political attacks and increasing balkanization. What a lot of folks would call ‘California style politics’.
  Short of everyone taking a step back and actually evaluating what they want/need as people and having a productive conversation about it and a useful compromise (hah!), I imagine we’ll just end up with a ‘strong man’ who can do all the ‘bad things’ necessary to pull everyone together into a consistent direction despite whatever hate might be thrown in their direction.
  Though typically that is just what someone pretends to be so they can loot everything… at least unless people are really careful to look at the persons track record of outcomes instead of what they are saying right now. And since everyone will be all angry and pissed off while this happens, lots of room for various bullshit to happen, ‘others’ to be made and punished, etc, etc.
  Oh wait….
  And yes I know this is a symptom of the problem, but I’ve also literally had enough of my life destroyed trying to discuss elements of this already to not do anything else. Murder anyone trying to be a hero, and what else is going to happen? You’ll either have villains, dead bodies, or cowards.
  
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