Comment by MrLeap

Comment by MrLeap 6 months ago

I feel like I am your hardware destroying cousin. For me it's mice, not keyboards.

I've had the same keyboard for like a decade, but I go through mice every 3-6 months. I've tried logitech / corsair / no-name / razor. 90% of the time I replace a mouse because of phantom double clicks or the mouse3 button just ceasing to work.

More rarely, the mouse will reconnect cycle over and over, or the scroll wheel will break.

I don't THINK I abuse them, but my body count indicates maybe I'm too hard on them and don't know it.

Maybe we need hardware that'll give us data on how mean we are to them so we can gain perspective. :p

arkh 6 months ago

It may be due to the hardware most constructors use and how they use it.

If you're ready for 1h of info on some switch and how they're misused in mice enjoy this in-depth video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5BhECVlKJA

I think the gaming mouse market is ripe for a ruggerized mouse with only optional software which does not require some account creation if you don't want to. If you could make it cheap enough you could call it the 2CV.

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blangk 6 months ago

You can disassemble and replace mouse switches quite easily and very cheaply if you already own a soldering iron and some basic tools - mouse switch failure is the typical reason for misclick double click problem

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MrLeap 6 months ago

This is a skill I would benefit to learn.

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misiek08 6 months ago

I'm using very niche mouse nowadays - Bloody. Weirdly they work ok, they have (IMHO) good parameters, if you are not a gaming master race. I was using two of them, each for 3 years and changed only because I lost replacement for the "legs". Also the first one started to loose some material on the button - probably because of cleaning spray I was using.

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__mharrison__ 6 months ago

I've had a CST trackball mouse for about 10 years with no problem...

/end anecdata

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garyfirestorm 6 months ago

ummmm what? I have had an MX Master Mouse for over 8 years and as an automotive engineer i have dropped it numerous times while testing vehicles, inside the vehicle, while getting out of the vehicle, just walking from desk to the cars in parking lots... and it still survived 8 years! what are you doing to your mouse exactly?

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nsxwolf 6 months ago

Do they make them the same as they did 8 years ago? It seems that whenever I want to replace a product I really enjoyed 10 years ago, the replacement is a cost-reduced piece of junk.

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gh02t 6 months ago

Counterpoint/anecdata, I've had 3 MX Master mice and 2 died in under a year and the third lasted about 2 weeks past the 2 year warranty expiration. And this was babying them, no mistreatment.
I gave up and switched to a clone (Rapoo MT760) that I actually like more.

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MrLeap 6 months ago

I click a lot? I don't feel like I'm putting the hammer to them. They just all die.

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- gffrd 6 months ago
  
  I've had many mice, and I've never had one fail. I've got mice that are over 20 years old and still work.
  So unless you are the hulk and not aware of it, I have to wonder if something else in your environment is affecting them.
  Do you buy them all from the same retailer? Do you live underwater? Or next to a high power transmission station?!
  
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  michaelmrose 6 months ago
  
  Logitechs high end mice are lovely to use but garbage build quality. That little spring under left button gives out far too easily.
  Its possible I click hard and certainly they got above average use but 3 died in 5 or 6 years
  
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- pedroma 6 months ago
  
  I've never broken a mechanical keyboard, but I have gone through a few mice. None of my MX mice (MX Master, MX Anywhere) have failed, but only gaming mice. I have a feeling gaming mice just aren't built to last, especially in recent years as brands have chased lighter and lighter mice, likely sacrificing durability.
  
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- 0x38B 6 months ago
  
  Kailh GM 8.0 (1) switches are supposed to be long-lasting. The switches in my Logitech mouse started to fail so I replaced them with the GM 8.0s - they are very clicky and still going strong.
  If I was to order more, I'd go with softer switches - the GM 8.0 is a tad hard to click for games with repetitive clicking.
  1: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/3256804334576149.html
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  I destroyed my beloved Logitech trackball's PCB trying to desolder its switches, which had become unreliable, but for the mouse, saw someone on YouTube heat all three leads of the switch at once until they could lift it straight off the PCB - this was far easier than trying to clean the solder off each lead and made the process almost easy.
  
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m000 6 months ago

Maybe it's time you switch to a trackball.

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zdragnar 6 months ago

I'm the trackball destroying cousin. I have yet to have one last two years in the last 10 or 12 years since I switched from mice.

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- m000 6 months ago
  
  Literally less than two years? In the EU you are probably eligible for a replacement, especially if some non-moving part (like sensors you mention below) fails.
  I would prefer of course if producers made their products more sturdy (less e-waste).
  
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- mrich 6 months ago
  
  What is breaking? FYI, you need to remove the ball from time to time and remove the dust that might be blocking the optical sensors.
  
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  zdragnar 6 months ago
  
  Usually sensors stop working. I had a Kensington slimblade whose tracking light just stopped turning on, for example. No amount of cleaning will bring it back.
  
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veunes 6 months ago

"You’ve clicked Mouse1 2.3 million times and scrolled 12 miles this month. Chill out!"

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jeremyjh 6 months ago

But this is just because mice are terrible. Trackpad is so much better.

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