Comment by weitendorf

Comment by weitendorf 6 days ago

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A thought I had recently was that someone should try making a social media/forum platform that only allows non-mobile usage.

My theory (which is definitely not originally mine) is that mobile devices have driven a huge shift in usage patterns towards low-effort content consumption. Smartphones are everybody's go-to when they're temporarily bored, so social media on the phone is less of a deliberate destination and more of an idle snack to alive someone's boredom. Even when people do engage, because they're often doing so on-the-go in short bursts and don't have access to a real keyboard, the engagement is typically very low effort. TikTok is a perfect testament to this shift IMO.

I'm thinking that desktop-only requirements would lead to less engagement over all, but higher quality engagement when it does occur. If there were a ranking system or some other kind of algorithmic content serving, it would be less skewed towards content that you can fully engage with in two seconds. And the userbase would skew towards more intentional enthusiasts who deliberately seek out the site, rather than someone looking for a quick distraction while they're bored for 15 seconds.

Hacker news does probably the best job at this without actively trying to prevent phone usage, but it doesn't exactly do much in the way of fostering a community like old-school forums.

tines 6 days ago

This is an amazing idea. I’ve been thinking a lot about how smart devices have changed the way we think and interact, reading books like Alone Together and other things from Sherry Turkle’s oeuvre, and remembering how I used to use my computer so differently when I didn’t have instantaneous access to low quality crap 24/7. I think making things desktop-only could be a heuristic that gets us back a lot of the things we lost in the transition to smartphones… definitely deserves more thought.

  • elwebmaster 6 days ago

    But how will people find out about it? Part of what we lost is the Google of back then when content was king. Can you rank a desktop-only website nowadays?

    • weitendorf 6 days ago

      I guess I envision this kind of site not being super growth/profit-motivated because I think that's just fundamentally at odds with high quality communities. HN does rank sometimes but not that often, and it's pretty highly trafficked. Also I never saw reddit show up in SERP until the past few years and they still grew a lot in that time.