Comment by ris

Comment by ris 6 days ago

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I think this is quite a fair commentry (although I quite like the Nix language personally) - as a nixpkgs developer even I don't use NixOS on the desktop. For me it shines on servers and development environments.

tuananh 6 days ago

> as a nixpkgs developer even I don't use NixOS on the desktop

that's not every encouraging :)

  • autra 4 days ago

    To counterpoint this, I'm an happy nixos desktop user. It's not perfect, but still vastly better than a non declarative distro for my taste.

    • sshine 4 days ago

      Wholeheartedly agree.

      NixOS gave me back my desire to customise my Linux again. I’ve run Linux since 1997; I’ve run a lot of distros.

      Having to reconfigure my Linux on every hardware reset (1-2 years apart) just exhausted me to a point where I ran GNOME on Ubuntu so I wouldn’t waste time on one-off stuff.

      My .emacs and .vimrc shrunk to 10% so I could reproduce them from memory if I had to.

      With NixOS, installing a new machine and having it work exactly like all my machines is minutes of work.

      I’ll never lose my hyper-customised setup again.

      Running something like Arch or Artix again feels very much like losing my “save” button.

    • lolinder 4 days ago

      Seconded. I switched to NixOS a year ago after an apt install broke my system one too many times, and so far I've been very very happy with it. I've broken things, but being able to roll back to an exact duplicate of the previous state has been a lifesaver. I can't imagine wanting to go back to repairing broken apt installs.

  • pxc 4 days ago

    It mostly goes the other way, I think. The community surveys haven't asked about NixOS desktop usage in particular. Still, I'm certain that a large majority of contributors are running NixOS on their desktops/laptops/workstations.

    That said there are prolific and longstanding contributors who focus on non-NixOS and even non-Linux platforms, and corporate users are likely to be running Nix on macOS or Ubuntu (under WSL). It's not surprising that some users who don't use NixOS on laptops or desktops have still become Nixpkgs contributors or maintainers, imo.

  • ris 6 days ago

    Why? It just isn't what draws me to Nix.

    I've never even really tried NixOS on the desktop TBH.

    • tuananh 6 days ago

      nothing. it's just from someone with no experience with nix like me, it feel weird that someone is already deep into Nix but isn't tempted to use it daily.

      • wpm 5 days ago

        Maybe it’s everyone else using it on their daily driver that got it wrong?

        It’s like doubting Kubernetes because one of the maintainers doesn’t run their desktop in KubeVirt.

        • yjftsjthsd-h 4 days ago

          I think it's more like Microsoft folks running macs; technically valid, but odd optics. Besides, why would you use KubeVirt to run your desktop? Just run it in containers directly.

      • jmartens 4 days ago

        What is so interesting about Nix is that it's not one thing. Its not (just) a distro. Its not (just) a package manager. Its not (just) a system manager. Its not (just) a language. Its not (just) a build tool.

        It is all those things, but specifically, what you want it to be. Yes, that makes it super confusing, but also powerful.

      • woile 5 days ago

        I've been using nix in a Mac for a year now. Recently I got a new Lenovo machine and first thing I did was install nixos, it's actually much better than I was expecting. You do notice that nix is designed around nixos

      • cbrozefsky 6 days ago

        You can use it daily, intimately, without using nixos. Using it for dev environments on macos for example, and servers. Did that for years before I installed nixos on my desktop.

aidenn0 4 days ago

As a counterpoint, I'm rather the opposite of you:

1. I use Nix primarily on the desktop (2 laptops, 2 workstations), though I also use it on one server. I don't think I could ever go back to any other Linux distro for my daily-driver. Things "just work" to a degree that they never have for me on e.g. Ubuntu.

2. I quite despise the Nix language; this is not to say that I think it's particularly bad (or good) as a language, just that nearly every single degree-of-freedom in language design that is largely about personal taste takes the opposite choice to what I would prefer

3. I find setting up development environments with it to be very hit-or-miss, to the point where I have in some cases fallen back on what I would do without nix, and used nix-ld to fill in the gaps.